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2016 TRD Off-Road

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by ThatguyJZ, Jan 12, 2015.

  1. Jan 14, 2015 at 11:19 PM
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    ETAV8R

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    On a recent trip to Death Valley I had wheel spin in gravel which was on top of a step/waterfall. The canyon I was in is no joke. My buddy suggested I engage the A-trac. Worked like a charm. My truck is fairly stock and some people don't believe in all the electronic charms our trucks currently have but late at night in the desert it makes things a bit more simple than backing down and finding a new line or gassing the crap out of it to get over an obstacle.
     
  2. Jan 15, 2015 at 6:06 AM
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  3. Jan 15, 2015 at 6:42 AM
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    I just listened to the entire thing, it was a half hour, and didn't hear the word ATRAC mentioned at all. They talked about crawl control a couple times, but all they said is that it will "control the throttle and braking" basically. So yeah, you must have just jumped to that conclusion in your mind or something.

    After listening to that Q/A stream; I feel like I know more about the go-pro mount and the drivers baja win in his Tundra than how the crawl control feature works.
     
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  4. Jan 15, 2015 at 6:57 AM
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  5. Jan 15, 2015 at 7:18 AM
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    Definitely didn't make it up. I thought I heard them talk about it. Oh well. I could care less as long as it's there either way.
     
  6. Jan 15, 2015 at 7:20 AM
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    This sounds like a viable possibility. I'd be surprised if they dispensed with ATRAC completely. Maybe it's there just in another form.
     
  7. Jan 15, 2015 at 7:23 AM
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    That is my point, ATRAC might not be there! What makes you think that it is?
     
  8. Jan 15, 2015 at 7:26 AM
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    This is something that we need to find out for sure and not just assume! Nothing I have seen anywhere yet about the crawl control and terrain select suggests that ATRAC is incorporated. It's also certainly not incorported into those features in the 4Runner, separate ATRAC button along with separate crawl control and separate terrain select.
     
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  9. Jan 15, 2015 at 7:30 AM
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    Okay, like I said before. I'll make a list of everyone's questions for when I go to the auto show and I'll try my best to find all answers.
    After how you explained ATRAC, I'm sure it could be integrated with crawl control because you said ATRAC controls wheel spin and what wheels has power and such. In the same way crawl control controls throttle and braking.
     
  10. Jan 15, 2015 at 7:48 AM
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    I don't think you're comprehending what ATRAC does. It's not the same in the 4Runner. Their crawl control, controls the throttle no differently than when you press on the gas pedal.

    ATRAC will turn wheels that usually don't get power from the throttle, and it does it through the braking system. The crawl control only brakes each tire individually in the 4Runner, it doesn't turn the opposite wheels that normally don't have power while in 4x4. ATRAC basically turns your 4x4 into all wheel drive, but two of the wheels only get power on demand.

    Again when in 4x4, crawl control on a 4runner will only send power to one tire in the front and rear. ATRAC in my 13' Tacoma will send power to all four wheels on demand, and allow you to drive out of something with only any one single tire touching the ground.
     
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    Based on your previous posts I'm worried you won't ask the right question. Can you ask the guy if crawl control has the ability to turn all four wheels like ATRAC currently does on our 2nd Gen Tacomas, or if it only controls the throttle the same as if you pressed on the gas pedal? That should give me the answer I'm looking for.
     
  12. Jan 15, 2015 at 8:05 AM
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    Absolutely, the only point of my post was that the lack of a button doesn't mean the feature doesn't exist. But similarly no reason to assume it does exist either!

    Sadly I expect even the folks on the floor at the show won't know how all the traction control works on the 2nd gen models, much less in the 3rd. But it can't hurt to try and ask the right question.
     
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    I know this thread is for the OR, but I've looked and couldn't find if the Limited has a locker or not, anyone?
     
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    They did say that this was the newest version of crawl control, so it doesn't necessarily allow/require an ATRAC button like the 5th gen 4Runner. I'm sure we'll find out before we can buy the truck when the first drives start happening.
     
  16. Jan 15, 2015 at 10:01 AM
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    Based off the 2nd gen and the 4Runner I doubt the limited gets a locker.
     
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    Were the original interior pictures released from a Limited ?
     
  18. Jan 15, 2015 at 10:17 AM
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    Yes, with the brown interior. But I don't think it showed a locked button
     
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    i doubt the limited gets crawl control either. you can see from the engine bay pics it has just a standard vacuum boosted master cylinder.

    TRD OR 4x4 currently has the electric hydro boosted master cylinder and likely still has it for much more precise and powerful braking action.
     
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    I don't pretend to know the intricacies of how crawl control works, but this isn't making sense. It's not possible for an open differential to direct power to one wheel unless that wheel has lost all traction. From what you're describing, the crawl control must act the same as ATRAC, i.e., when a wheel loses traction, that wheel is braked thereby sending power to the opposite wheel on that axle. There's no way way to send power to only one wheel--unless that wheel has completely lost traction, in which case the other wheel on that axle will have none. It's sounding to me like there's little difference between ATRAC and crawl control other than that CC also control throttle application.

    This isn't possible. It HAS to turn the opposite wheels that don't have power in that situation. To reiterate, applying brakes to a spinning tractionless wheel--either in crawl control or ATRAC--HAS to supply power to the opposite wheel on that axle. It's the nature of open differentials, i.e., if you apply brakes to a tractionless wheel that's under power, that power MUST be directed to the opposite tire. There's no physical way for Crawl Control to act as you describe,where braking is applied to a tractionless wheel but no power is directed to the other axle. Not possible at all.
     

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