New Tacoma to be shown in Detroit

If they made the Tacoma any larger it would as big if not bigger than my fullsize 2003 Tundra. It's not a behemoth by fullsize standards (like todays overgrown 1/2 tons) but with 4 feet between the wheelwells it still ranked as a fullsize 12 years ago.

 

Yup. I bought my Tacoma because it was close in size to my 1994 F-150 it was replacing.

 

278 ft lbs of torque would make it class best for a gasoline motor. I think the base 4.3 liter in the new Silverados has 305 ft lbs. I doubt it will get more than that. But who knows, maybe it will crank out a surprising amount since Toyota won't be offering a Diesel.

 

Toyota could really surprise people if they have a TRD Supercharger ready to go off the bat and they make it available through financing. I think that could help end a lot of the bitching and moaning.

 

When I was a kid my dad had a '89 Chevy 2500 pickup 350 (5.7 liter). I thought it was the most powerful motor out there when I was a kid. According to Wikipedia it got 190 hp, 300 lb·ft. Kinda weird to think this little Tacoma will get almost the same torque rating and probably 100 more horse power.

 

Some body in another thread posted PDF document with 2gr-fse engine and in that document it was stated that Direct Injection technology improves torque by 7% over PFI engine. So in Tacoma goign from 4.0L to 3.5L is a drop of 12%. plus 7% improvement with Direct injection new truck will still have to suffer from 5% lower performance.

 

The engineer stated that the power 'should' be the head of its class for power to weight ratio.

To me that means they are still tuning and changing things.

Also, that the the truck may weigh less than the competitor allowing the torque and hp numbers to be lower.

 

Why you craving a premium fuel cost?

 

No desire for a turbo here. I just want a motor that will last me 10+ years without throwing thousands in repair costs at it. If I wanted a fancy, high output turbo, I'd get a Ford.

 

That is only if you consider no other power modifications to the motor. Pretty sure the motor will be more output across the board.

 

I already have it . Boost is addicting. Hey if people are willing to pay a bunch of extra money for a Diesel or a V8 why not offer a system to allow the current engine to develop the same amount of power about as efficiently as a V8 does. My TRD S/C Tacoma costs less to operate per mile than the Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi's in our work fleet.

Wait, I thought you wanted a Diesel. Which would cost you exactly what you just stated if anything ever goes wrong with it or the turbo.

 

No, I never said I wanted a diesel. To the contrary I said I don't see a need for one in mid-sized trucks. I do wish Toyota would bring one here though. Just one that they could share with other vehicles like the 4runner etc. Since there is indeed a demand. I don't wanna pay $3k more so I can get 30% better miles but pay 30% more for fuel.

 

Diesels are built a lot stronger than gas engines are though, increasing there durability.

 

When something does go wrong though Diesels are exponentially more expensive to get parts for and work on though. So that's pretty much a wash. We operate a fleet. Trust me, diesels are no cheaper than a gas job to keep on the road. We only use our diesels now where heavy duty towing is a requirement.

A S/C gas job with a bypass for the highway allows the gas engine to develop much larger torque numbers when needed without sacrificing much at cursing speeds. It's a good compromise I think if Toyota decided to go that way but make the part more easily available financially.

 

I am just dreading the thought of what a DCLB 4x4 is going to cost me. Probably around $37k.

 

Yeah but I doubt V8 has anythign to do with it.
I have 5.7 V8 in one truck and 4.0 V6 in another.
If I drive under/around 50 MPH (lazy shopping Sunday) I get around 17 MPG on V8 and 21 MPG on V6.
However, Truck with V8 weights around 30% more than Truck with V6 (6000lb vs 4500 lb)
Check numbers. 30% of 17 is 5.1 together its 22 MPG for V8 if you remove the weight factor.
Hence why I am going to repeat my original call, Toyota should have added option for 5.7 V8 to Tacoma
Fk 3.5 pu$$y engine

 

By that logic, I should be able to get 100MPG by sticking a V8 on a golf cart.

 

DO NOT TEMPT ME!

 

You obviously have no clue how car companies market their vehicles or how CAFE regs constrain them as well.
Toyota was NEVER going to put the 5.7 liter in their Tacoma. Even in the late 90's, early 2000's GM and Chrysler tried that. They sold poorly because people want a mid-sized engine in their mid-sized truck.

 

^ but just look at the mileage of the top spec chargers, mustangs and vettes/ cameros. That logic does not apply.