2016 has rear drum brakes...

Rotors a little grooved, pads still had a little life left in them. In direct comparison to the rear it was going to last a least twice as long. Tell me again about how discs don't last longer. Well, for my abuse any how...

 

I don't know why drums are hard to work on. Super easy to work on for me. If you can't work on drums I suggest you stay away from wrenching all together and stick to basic stuff like stickers, debadging emblems, derping, and adding the window shield washer fluid

Seriously though if wrenching on any vehicle should be easy, everyone would be doing it. But because it's challenging, not easy to do at times and requires you to use your brain, that is the reason I enjoy wrenching on all types of vehicles.

 

Still don't understand the rear drum brake hate. Front drums bad, rear drums okay. Rear brakes only do... what... 20% of the stopping force? They do more work as the parking brake than a stopping brake.

 

I think it is closer to 60 / 40 split on the brakes.

 

http://www.edmunds.com/car-technology/brakes-drum-vs-disc.html

It's between 60-90 percent of the brake force that comes from the front brakes. Trucks tend to be closer to the 90 percent figure because they are so light in the back.

 

That is the perfect comparison. I get that the rear drums work, what I don't get, other than monetary, is why Toyota is not evolving the Tacoma in this regard.

 

Probably a convenience factor in there somewhere. Changing oil is a no brainer, although many people on this forum have really fubar'd it. I would still rather do it on my Tacoma than on my wife's 2014 4Runner. Cartridge type oil filters seem to be the next 'new' thing, although not really new. Real pain in the ass to deal with though in comparison to the 2nd Gen Tacoma V6. I can change rear pads on a drum setup, would just rather do discs.

 

And can someone get a weight comparison on drums vs discs? Still want to know if that is really a factor for Toyota to offset the weight of the bed.

 

Obviously not the same vehicle by any means but the first thing that popped up on the Google:

http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/weight-disc-brakes-vs-drum-brakes-118591.html

 

This was an interesting read if you have the time:

http://www.truckinginfo.com/article/story/2013/07/brakes-shorter-stopping-distances-again.aspx

And this one:

http://www.alu.army.mil/alog/issues/SepOct06/disk_brakes.html

 

Yes, blanket statements and name calling because some people have a different opinion than you is certainly the most reasonable route to go. Posts like this give this forum a bad name.

 

Like I stated they back up the 60% I stated.

now show me someplace that states 90 % in trucks thst is BS.


BTW they also stated In that Info....

rear drums are used to be cheap and cut costs.... that is it. not that they are as good or better as disk.

 

I don't mind drum brakes. Mostly because I think they are pretty easy to change. Doesn't bother me a bit.

 

+1. Drum brakes on the rear are perfectly fine.

I'm willing to be that even if Toyota put some monster six pot StopTech brakes on the front and the Tacoma could stop as fast as a 911, people would still bitch about the rear drums...

Stop bitching!

 

Hi Guys, I've been lurking in the weeds and waiting for someone to make this comment but haven't seen it. Doesn't it make sense that the 16 Tacoma 4X4 Offroad package would come with 4 wheel discs? Considering it is a brake biased system!?! If drums are a cost cutting measure doesn't it seem like it would make more sense to use the system in the 4runner than to reconfigure your system with drum brakes? That being said it wouldn't surprise me if Toyota did the latter...

 

I don't know why people have a hard time even considering this. I like my truck but I don't subscribe to blatant and blinding fanboy-ism. It stops well enough but that doesn't mean it can't be easily improved.

 

The rears have less than 30 percent of the weight of the truck available during braking to hold them to the road. Please explain to me again how having discs back there is going to dirastcially shorten stopping distance when the amount of force that can be applied is limited by the momentum of the weight of the truck leaning on the front wheels.

I love how upset this is getting some people .

 

so what hou are saying is they are not designed to haul a load or tow and not really a truck?
load it and they have load. Why do you think they started and used so much rear anti lock brake systems. The rear would always lock up when it had no load as they designed it to haul a load so the brakes were set at a % based on load.

For years toyots use a valve in the rear that work and changed the % based on load in the bed.

 

What did drums ever do to you .

I didn't think the porportionimg valve on Toyotas was "variable".., if it was guys wouldn't have so many issues when they try to retrofit discs in the rear. The system would just vary the flow to correct for the discs, which it doesn't seem to do. Those huge 4 piston calipers in the front, along with the three sets of drums between my truck and trailer, seem to stop my truck and trailer very well.

Anyways, spat savings or whatever, I'm happy my truck has rear DRUMS () for the reasons I've mentioned. Clearly you're not, and for some reason that makes me very happy too.