NFL Trash Talkers Thread

I think it's McDaniels. Remember, he tried video taping other teams while he was head coach for the Broncos too... people aren't really bringing that up. The guy is just a cheater

 

Hahaha so great

 

There have been no Seattle Seahawk player suspended this year for PED's (or anything else) the last Seahawk player suspended is on your team.

Also, if you look at suspensions per team.. the Seahawks are not at the top of the list. (two players the year before in 2013, again one of them is on your team, the other is a New York Giant) As of the last year the Seahawks were #1 since 2010 but including this year several teams passed or caught them. The Broncos with Welker and Prater passed them, the Giants (2 DB's) passed them.

Do you have any other well thought out intelligent points you would like to try and make?

However. Just my opinion... a player cheating is VASTLY different than an organization cheating.

 

Given that the balls were delivered to the referees for inspection two hours before kickoff. The ambient temperature out doors was very close to 52F. By halftime, the temperature was very close to 47F. If the balls were inflated to 93 kP at presentation and at the ambient temperature, then by halftime the ball pressure would be 84.05 kP solely due to the decrease in temperature. Gay-Lussac's gas law P1/T1=P2/T2. 93kP/52F=x/47F x=84.05kP. Why does this matter? NFL regulates the pressure of the game ball to be between 86-93 kiloPascals. { 12.5-13.5 lbs/sq in. Making x=12.20 lbs/sq in.} So, if the accusation is that the balls were discovered at halftime to be 2 lbs/sqin short, then the question becomes what would the starting temperature be to get this result? 13.5/T1=10.5/47F. T1=60.5F
What if the balls were kept at 70F prior to the game? 13.5 lbs/sqin / 70F= 10.5 lbs/sqin /T2. T2 = 54.68F Since the ambient temp was below 54F throughout the day, the complained of ball pressure is solely a result of the decrease due to the decrease of the temperature of the balls.
If the balls started out being minimally inflated, then the temperature drop by halftime would produce a ball with a pressure of 8.36 lbs/sqin. Even this would seem to be acceptable under the rules, since the regulation does not require the balls to be adjusted throughout the game to compensate for temperature influenced pressure changes. Physics, bitch.

 

Here is something someone on another forum brought up that I had not even thought of. The Pats scored 17 points in the first half with under inflated ball's and 28 points in the second half with properly inflated ball's? As s Pats fan.... I'm glad someone found the problem.

 

I posted stats for both halves a couple pages back. It's not really relevant...

 

This isn't the first NFL game where the temperature dropped during the game, and a linebacker isn't going to notice that a ball is inflated only 2 psi less than normal.

Unlike illegal videotaping, this didn't affect the outcome of the game, but I am surprised that the Pats would do this or let it happen, whichever it may be. They have a reputation for being cheaters. One would think they wouldn't want to get involved in something like this.

If the Pats did intentionally do this. Roger Goodell will do just like he did with Spygate. He'll prematurely end the investigation, order the evidence to be destroyed, and serve the Pats with a slap on the wrist.

 

So why is being reported that only the patriots balls were under inflated? I don't really care about the game as i know the result would have been the same but if they prove this was premeditated then it makes me wonder, what the hell else is this team doing to try and find competitive advantages and bending the rules? The track record for them isn't good so I think that's why this is getting blown up

 

Weren't there something like 6 Seahawks suspended last year for PED? The same year that the defense earned the nickname "Legion of Boom" and the team won the superbowl in a very dominant fashion?
Wonder who else was using and didn't get caught...



Just thought I'd throw that out there, since the last 20 pages or so of this thread have been attacks on the characters of organizations based on rumor and innuendo
Theoretically it could have been one overzealous ball boy who stuck a pin in those footballs just as easily as it could have been a head coach telling him to do it. Just like it could have been players acting on their own initiative to take PED's just as easily as it could have been an organization encouraging them to do so.

 

Who knows, but Belechick is very smart and also very shady. Goodell really saved the Pats asses with the way he dealt with the Spygate scandal. The illegal taping was just the tip of the tip of the iceberg.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye1Iyz7vVbs

 

2 players if I remember correctly but I'm not in front of my computer right now. Walter Thurmond who is now on the Giants and Brandon browner who is on the Patriots.

 

Bruce Irvin was suspended for the first four games of the 2013 season, and Sherman took Adderall but won his appeal.

It's rumored that ped use was common at USC during the Carroll era. The Seahawks' player PED suspensions began when Carroll arrived.

 

Bruce Irvin was suspended in 2012, just like Browner was suspended in 2013 but served in 2014.

No proof Sherman tested positive.

Rumors are rumors.

 

Yes, I said "suspended for the first four games of 2013."

Sherman failed a PED test, received a 4-game suspension, and got off on a technicality, much like Ryan Braun of the Milwaukee Brewers did.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8...-test-was-contaminated-broken-seal-cup-source

 

First, congrats on learning how to copy and paste. Second, that's chemistry, not physics. And third, if all of this is true why did the colts balls manage to stay perfectly fine?

 

But, but, but why didn't anyone complain or find anything wrong with the Colts game balls?

 

He won is appeal because his specimen was contaminated by a leaking and broken cup, therefore, no positive test. The tester used an unsealed second cup which was contaminated to catch the first broken cup. The tester told the NFL the cup was broken and the second cup was contaminated.

In the legal system when you win your appeal you are found to have not committed, not committed with an asterisk.

Technicality or not, not guilty.

For the record, the Broncos lead the NFL with suspensions since 2010. Just a heads up.

 

Right so his suspension was in 2012, not last year.

 

But the league would neverrrrr be smart enough to have the teams fill up the balls outside or anything. Its not like a good portion of the teams play in cold weather climates.

 

Let's just end all this weather caused the drop in PSI bull shit.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...her-play-a-role-in-patriots-colts-deflategate

Every 10 degree drop in temperature (F) results in about .2 PSI loss in a football. Say the balls were inflated/checked at room temp prior to kickoff, which is around 70 degrees. Gametime temp was around 50 degrees. We're talking about .4 drop in pounds per square inch (PSI).

You may recall the footballs dropped from 13.5 PSI or so to 10.5 PSI.

Weather, was not the culprit. Don't take my word, here's Dr. Michael Lisa, Professor of Physics, at Ohio State University:

"There were apparently balls found at 10.5 PSI gauge pressure, which is 11% below the regulation 13 PSI. That 11% change in pressure is what you'd get with a 11% reduction in temperature. Taking care of all the conversions to Kelvin, etc, that would be going from 70 F to 12 F. So, that could happen on a real cold day."