ABS on this truck is dangerous...

Its always your fault if you end up in the rear.. been there once, resulted in my only "at fault" accident..

never mind if the vehicle in front of you hits a non moving object, you should always be able to stop faster than them or you are "traveling to fast" or "following closely"

you can not maintain a following distance of 200 plus feet at all times in all traffic in order to account for a 30mph car hitting a stopped car in front of you..

 

Yea, that's rough. Sometimes there is no way out. That is why we carry insurance after all

 

2-3 mph is only 5 kph. That's approximately a jogging speed. If your truck was sliding at those speeds you really need to look at some winter tires. See how that does with the ABS disable switch and then make your own decisions .

Yesterday I got cutoff in a left hand turn lane which was filled with packed down icey snow with a fresh 1 cm layer of powder on top and I had no problem going from 20 km/hr to 0 in only maybe 10 feet with the ABS doing it's thing. The nice part is with ABS thinking back if I hadn't of been able to stop there was a nice solid low curve I could of steered into for extra stopping resistance. I can't do that without ABS without risking a slide.

 

Yeah, new tires will probably help a lot. I'm still riding the rugged fails with 25k miles on them. They have well over half their tread left and I've never had a problem with traction at all outside of the snowy slow speed ABS issue. Might be starting to get worse with a little wear though.

Last weekend it was almost exactly like OZ described, it felt like the truck was just floating on top of the surface of the road in slow motion. I was also going slightly down hill too.

 

Have fun it's your ride might as will get rid of your iPhone to it's way too advanced. By the way just hold the ABS button for a few seconds.

 

There is no ABS button

 

lol I don't even have a data plan or internet on my cell phone, its certainly not an iPhone. I like to unplug when I'm not at work.

There is no ABS button on these trucks. There's a button that turns off vehicle stability control, and if you hold it down a few seconds it turns of traction control as well. Traction control and ABS are completely different things.

In general I think ABS helps in most situations and want it on. But I would rather not have it enabled when off-road on my families farm, or in select snow situations. There is a mod that lets you add a switch to turn it off, but there is no factory button in any of our trucks.

 

I don't have to pull a fuse. There's a mod where you ground a blue/yellow wire in our OR trucks, tricking the computer into thinking the rear diff is locked when it's really not (rear diff lock turns off ABS in OR trucks while still allowing TRAC and ATRAC). Hook that ground wire up to a switch and you can turn ABS on and off at will, you can even turn it off in the middle of it kicking on if you had to.

I'm a little afraid to ground a wire I don't know much about though and what long term effects that might have on the truck's computer. But it's been out there for several years, seems like a popular mod, and haven't seen any reports that it messed up anyone's computer yet. I'll probably get new tires and call it good for a year or so while I do more research on this subject. I would love to do the disable ABS switch mod if it is safe for the computer and electrical system though, just for select occasions.

Traction control and ABS both control the brakes using the same hardware. It's just that traction control is applied to control wheel spin when your accelerating, but ABS is applied to control wheel spin when your braking. One is applying brakes to a spinning wheel to give you more traction, the other is removing your brakes (pumping them for you) to prevent a rollover at high speeds or crappy drivers getting sideways. I'd rather not have ABS removing my brakes for me in low speed situations where there is no chance of rolling over or getting sideways. All other situations I would leave it on.

 

Couldn't grounding a wire with power like that cause a "short" in the electrical system over time though? I doubt the OEM system grounds that exact same wire when the rear is locked, doesn't it trigger the ABS off through some different method?

Forgive my ignorance if they are dumb questions. I'm no electrician and really am not sure what a "short" even is, but I know it's the cause of a lot of electrical gremlins that I don't want.

 

Your right I was thinking the trac control.

 

Bro... there is no way in hell that happened, oh wait PA resident that makes sense LOL!

 

Yeah no way in hell huh, guess I'm making it up then. I have so much to gain by posting about truck issues that didn't really happen.

A quick search of your posts shows that you are basically a troll. You contribute nothing positive to this site, and make derogatory posts on several different threads.

 

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So you're saying that everyone with ABS issues sucks at driving in the snow, and because your one truck didn't have ABS issues during a single day of driving around "Juno" that there is no issue at all with ABS being to sensitive in any Tacoma? Guess what, my truck is fine 99% of the time when I'm driving in snow, it's something that has happened to me 3 times over the last 2 years. Twice on snowy/icy road surfaces where the snow wasn't deep and was somewhat icy, and once going down a steep muddy hill off-road while it was raining (I'm sure I would have slid down it without ABS too).

I'll give NH residents the benefit of the doubt and hope they're not all like you.

 

You said you were driving 2-3mph, if you were on dry pavement what would you expect the distance to stop to be? Maybe like 1-2 feet??? Slam the brakes on!!!

So now on a snow covered road you said that it took you double to triple the distance to stop, still driving 2-3mph, so you slide 6 feet? Right past your turn?

I'm not trolling you I just think you need a little more practice in winter driving!

 

Another fight in the ABS thread.....

 

Doesn't understand the issue ....

 

Not here, I'm out!

 

You see, this is what we've been posting here. But because this hasn't happened to others, then they want to blame the driver, or tires. Summer tires, winter tires, winter tire's with studs. It has still happened. ABS has kicked in and the truck WON'T STOP. 35 years driving in an area with an annual winter snowfall of over 110 inches, so yes, I know how to drive in the snow. We don't stay in up here, we just get out and go. If we didn't we'd spend half the winter inside. Most drivers are good winter drivers here (well, that may be an overstatement). Comes with experience. I've had my share of vehicles with ABS and this is the only one that has performed like this. As I said before, my wife's Honda civic won't do it, My Mitsui Outlander won't do it, but my Tacoma does. If your's doesn't then that's great. But don't insist that mine doesn't, or that it's driver error. I've been moving at speeds lower than the speedometer can register, and can't stop. It's NOT normal behavior for a well-designed ABS system. I wouldn't suggest that yours performs the same as mine, so you shouldn't suggest that mine performs the same as yours. It could be a computer programming error or glitch.

.... lane which was filled with packed down icey snow with a fresh 1 cm layer of powder on top and I had no problem going from 20 km/hr to 0 in only maybe 10 feet....

You might want to do the math on that and come back with some realistic numbers.

 

Well actually your right compared to dry pavement it took way longer than double the stopping distance. I was comparing how far it would have taken me to stop on icy snow without ABS compared to with ABS though. Not dry pavement with ABS compared to icy snow with ABS.

Going less than 5mph and slamming my brakes on without ABS on this same icy snow surface probably would have carried me about 5 yards or less. Instead my ABS kicked on and carried me probably 15 yards or so. I had about 5 more yards before I would have been into the oncoming traffic in the opposite lane.