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Discussion in 'Performance and Tuning' started by laney487, Jan 26, 2015.

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  1. Feb 12, 2015 at 3:55 PM
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    Thanks for posting that!! Always puts a smile on my face it does... sometimes it pays off to be in the right place at the right time.

    This is a video of the build;
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTB6tpnmveo
     
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  2. Feb 12, 2015 at 4:22 PM
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    Do you know that it doesnt work? I say we should let the beta testers collect some data, dynos and fuel trims and then we can all make a decision as to whether this product is good for our trucks or just another wannabe throttle spacer. Based on what ive seen so far, I have high hopes for it. The science makes total sense to me, but then again I inhale a lot of solder smoke
     
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  3. Feb 12, 2015 at 4:38 PM
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    Fuel Mileage is one of the biggest marketing strategies with car manufacturers. If this really saves 1 MPG than why isn't Toyota installing 2$ worth of plastic spacers on everything they sell. I guess if it does really work than Crawford better patent this quickly and sell the technology to the auto manufacturers for billions.
     
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  4. Feb 12, 2015 at 4:48 PM
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    We actually did patent it before we put it out on the market ;)

    The manufactures have so many hoops they have to jump through that they end up leaving some room on the table for us aftermarket guys to exploit. Most all tuners trim the fuel at high loads / high RPM's when we make stage maps to replace the factory's tune. This product uses the same math as an aftermarket tune but on a smaller and safer scale.

    The increase in fuel mileage comes directly from injecting less fuel, it's pretty simple math.
     
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  5. Feb 13, 2015 at 6:05 AM
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    Toyota dont even need to install this spacer. It can be done via the flash of the ECU. Cause of this flash, Tacoma running very rich at WOT. I understand the way this spacer is working and basics behind it. In fact it's a mechanical MAF calibrator.
     
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  6. Feb 13, 2015 at 6:33 AM
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    Their fueling strategies are designed to work across every worst case scenario. Not best. From excessively clogged fuel filters, hot climates, cold climates, severe elevation changes. Install an AFR gauge and get an idea of how rich these engines run when climbing the load scale to 100%. Fuel pigs.
     
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  7. Feb 13, 2015 at 8:35 AM
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    Correct, they must build in a cushion for many variables.
     
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  8. Feb 13, 2015 at 8:37 AM
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    Exactly, they could make the exact same changes if they chose to do so.
     
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  9. Feb 13, 2015 at 10:21 PM
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    any love for a first gen taco? live right down the road :D also used to own a suby :D
     
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  10. Feb 14, 2015 at 7:16 AM
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    Looks like Q1 is the part for your taco;

    1999-00-01-02-03-04 Tacoma 3.4L #
    $104 197-6020 Mass Air Flow Sensor, Regular
    197-6020 =Q1
    2005-06-07-08-09-10-11-12 Tacoma all 4.0L #
    $86 197-6030 Mass Air Flow Sensor
    197-6030 =Q1
    2000-01-02-03-04 Tundra 3.4L #197-6020 =Q1
    2005-06-07-08-09-10-11 Tundra 4.0L #197-6030 =Q1
    2012-13-14 Tundra 4.0L #197-6160 =Q2

    Drop on by next week and we will install one for you.
     
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  11. Feb 14, 2015 at 8:08 AM
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    oh, i can just order and install, its only 2 bolts :D do you have a dyno chart for before and after of this on a first gen taco?
     
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  12. Feb 14, 2015 at 10:45 AM
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    Yea, easy order and install. We have three different trucks headed our way for some dyno runs so we can show the before and after power numbers. We're at their mercy for the actual dates though.
     
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  13. Feb 14, 2015 at 10:44 PM
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    if you are around, i am off monday and can swing by for a dyno test :D
     
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  14. Feb 15, 2015 at 8:56 AM
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    Sure, I'll be there all day. Afternoon would be best.
     
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  15. Feb 15, 2015 at 9:12 AM
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    Tor, think I should swing by since I am also local?
     
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    Can't wait to see dyno.
    General question But how does a dyno tell us how mods work when not in wot? Like daily driving or normal accel?
    I know it's off topic but seems we have some professionals in here
     
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  17. Feb 15, 2015 at 8:09 PM
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    oh wow, um yea, i can swing by. what time would be best for you? also, what would you need from me?
     
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    Some flags and center console divider... lots of things on the wanted list.
    :popcorn:
     
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  19. Feb 16, 2015 at 4:42 AM
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    More test data equals more accurate results. Worthy of speaking to them about it. :thumbsup:
     
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  20. Feb 16, 2015 at 5:31 AM
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    It doesn't, dyno is open loop test. If your normal driving includes open loop that will help, but dyno doesn't tell you about closed loop operation.
     
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