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Colorado B.S. Thread

Discussion in 'Colorado' started by Kappes03, Jan 1, 2011.

  1. Feb 17, 2015 at 9:53 AM
    teamhypoxia

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    Are you sure you need UCAs? Or do you just want them?

    I'm far from an expert so take this with a grain of salt, but I'm not running aftermarket UCAs and don't know that I'll need them.

    I was able to get an alignment of 0 toe and camber and just over 1 degree of caster. "They" say that that's not enough caster, but the truck drives fine for me. It doesn't wander if I let go of the steering wheel or anything.

    If I understand correctly, aftermarket UCAs would give me more adjustment allowing for more caster but would do so by putting the front wheels further back in the wheel well. I also haven't had to chop the cab mount to run 33s but adding caster via UCAs might make that necessary.

    I think that in mid travel applications, stock UCAs may limit your droop?
    35s may also benefit from UCAs with extra clearance relative to the tire?
     
  2. Feb 17, 2015 at 10:25 AM
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    I use the Light Racing arms to get more caster while keeping the camber correct. When using the light racing arms you can actually move the wheel farther forward further reducing the need for a body mount chop. This only applies to the Light Racing arms.
     
  3. Feb 17, 2015 at 10:30 AM
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  4. Feb 17, 2015 at 10:36 AM
    teamhypoxia

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    I'd like to be schooled on this. My impression was that adding caster from the bottom moved the wheel forward and adding caster from the top moved the wheel rearward.
     
  5. Feb 17, 2015 at 10:39 AM
    Deathbysnusnu

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    I have Lt racing uca's. Mine are a fixed castor of 2-3 degrees, can't remember which.
    They allow a greater range of Camber adjustment. Mine are not adjustable forward or back (castor) just for camber.
    The droop is virtually the same with the stock units but the range of motion is better with the aftermarket units.
    What I mean by that is with the stock uca at full droop, the ball joint is stressed to the point of almost popping out.
    With aftermarket uca's, full droop is engineered into the design so the ball joint has much less stress.
    The only reason I went with aftermarket uca's was because my alignment adjusters were frozen and it was the easier way to deal with it.
     
  6. Feb 17, 2015 at 10:40 AM
    Deathbysnusnu

    Deathbysnusnu Work is just a daily detour to happy hour.

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    Correct.
     
  7. Feb 17, 2015 at 10:43 AM
    CO MTN Steve

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    My understanding was an 3" lift severally stresses these components/ drive linkage thus reducing life expectancy. Figured I would be proactive by getting an UCA designed to handle this over "hoping" stock UCA will hold up for X period of time.

    Thanks for the feed back, maybe my thinking was all wrong on this.
     
  8. Feb 17, 2015 at 10:44 AM
    Deathbysnusnu

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    However, we're just talking 2-3 degrees of movement. Mine were adjusted from the top with the fixed castor, I don't have rub problems other than that pinch weld which is a problem for all 1st gens on 33's.

    If i recall, I have something like 2.5/2.3 castor and 0 camber. Or it was before Bunce School Road redid my alignment.
     
  9. Feb 17, 2015 at 10:47 AM
    Deathbysnusnu

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    It stresses the upper ball joint at full droop. Not much else is affected.
     
  10. Feb 17, 2015 at 11:54 AM
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  11. Feb 17, 2015 at 11:58 AM
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  16. Feb 17, 2015 at 4:02 PM
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    very good Eric^ not an expert:cool:


    also correct

    ? LR ucas have camber and caster adjustment?


    hell yeah, makes me want to go up and get stuck
     
  17. Feb 17, 2015 at 4:09 PM
    teamhypoxia

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    The way I read it was that the built in caster of the LRs allows for more camber adjustment.
    Isn't stock camber/caster adjustment a balancing act? IOW give in one to gain in the other?
     
  18. Feb 17, 2015 at 4:14 PM
    Deathbysnusnu

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    Fixed caster only and the camber is adjustable at top, you can slide the ball joint assembly side to side, but not front to back.
     
  19. Feb 17, 2015 at 4:15 PM
    lotsoftoys

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    yes it is a balancing act. and yes with the ball joint into the middle position in the uca, it gains +2* over stock arms. however you can go back to stock caster or go all the way to +4*. and the ball joint slides in and out giving u camber adjustment. they are extremely versatile, which is also why some people install them due to seized lower arms. not a fix imo, more of a band aid but it does work.

    if we put ucas on your truck Eric, I guarantee you'd notice a difference in how it drove. plus with more correct amount of caster, the tires scrub on the ground less when turning, leading to better tire wear.
     
  20. Feb 17, 2015 at 4:36 PM
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    Pshh. .. michelins!
     

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