9.4 MILLION acres slated to close in Moab. Please take action NOW.

dsrtxj · Oct 2, 2009

This is serious shit. Moab could be gone forever to all but foot traffic. Please do your part to keep the land open.

Here is a link you should check out along with the thread on pirate.

http://blogs.4wheeloffroad.com/65633...ver/index.html

http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=824685

Congress to Vote on H.R. 1925 America's Red Rock Wilderness Act This Thursday!(this was yesterday)

Moab Might Be Gone Forever!

Posted Today 01:35 PM by 4WOR Web Editor

Filed under: Miscellaneous, Jason Gonderman

The Chairman of the Subcommittee on National Parks, Forests and Public Lands of the U.S. House Committee on Natural Resources has scheduled a hearing on October 1 to consider H.R. 1925, America's Red Rock Wilderness Act of 2009.

This legislation -- which will ban off-highway vehicle (OHV) access to public lands to those who live and recreate in
Utah -- was introduced by New York Representative Maurice Hinchey.

However, not a single Representative from Utah is supporting H.R.1925.

Specifically, H.R. 1925 would designate more than nine million more acres as federally protected "Wilderness," and directly affect the Moab, San Rafael Swell and Chimney Rock areas (to name a few) in Utah.

These popular OHV areas represent some of the most important remaining OHV recreation areas in Utah, and are some of the most popular with responsible OHV riders. The proposed Wilderness designation would also make the land off limits to ATV riders, mountain bikers and horseback
riders.

Coming on the heels of the recently enacted Omnibus Public Land Management Act, which closed 2 million acres of public lands, this vast Wilderness bill will take away additional recreation opportunities currently enjoyed by local residents and visitors alike.

The AMA needs your help now to stop H.R. 1925. The fastest way to reach your U.S. Representative is to call them. You can find contact information for your elected officials by entering your zip code on AmericanMotorcyclist.com, clicking on "Rights," then "Issues and Legislation." Additionally, a prewritten e-mail is available for you to send to your Representative immediately by following the "Take
Action" option and entering your information.

Please contact your Representative right away and urge them to oppose H.R. 1925.

It's VERY VERY SIMPLE! Just click here...

http://capwiz.com/amacycle/issues/al...ertid=14061961

... and you will be taken to the AMA's (American Motorcycle
Association) website. Enter your zip code and a letter will be sent to your representative urging them to vote NO on this bill.

Do it NOW! please
Everybody help this Bill Fail!!!
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Clash of Viewpoints on Public Land Ownership and Protection Arrives in Congress in the Form of Red Rock Wilderness Legislation

Posted October 1st, 2009 by Kurt Repanshek

The curious landscape of White Wash Dunes along the Green River some dozen miles south of the town of Green River would be protected as wilderness under legislation that received a congressional hearing Thursday. Kurt Repanshek photo. Accompanying map shows where proposed wilderness lies. A larger map can be found at this site: http://www.suwa.org/site/PageServer?...WAclickablemap

Contrasting views on how public lands should be managed and enjoyed collided in a congressional committee hearing Thursday as distinct lines were drawn over whether more than 9 million acres of red-rock landscape in Utah's outback should be protected as official wilderness or left open for off-road vehicles, mountain bikes, and energy development.

After languishing for decades, the Red Rock Wilderness Act received its first congressional hearing before the House Subcommittee on National Parks, Forests, and Public Lands. As expected, Utah officials lined up to criticize the legislation, which would set aside 9.4 million acres, much of it wrapping Canyonlands, Arches and Capitol Reef national parks as well as Glen Canyon National Recreation Area.

The landscape in question ranges from sagebrush-studded high desert and rugged mountainscapes to delicately sculpted canyonlands, from surprisingly lush riparian areas to rippled sand dunes that shift with the winds. Many areas hide vast and rich paleontological burial grounds as well as archaeological remains and artifacts from thousands of years ago. Delicate rock-art drawings are hidden away in alcoves; those that are not often become targets for would-be sharpshooters. Hawks wheel in the skies overhead, rattlesnakes and lizards slither and skitter across the landscape, while mountain lions and ringtail cats can be found here, too, as can delicate and rare wildflowers. To many it's a mesmerizing and beautiful landscape that should be protected. Others see it as a wasteland with no intrinsic values.

Neither the Southern Utah Wilderness Alliance, a long-time proponent of the legislation, nor federal land managers are highly viewed by many in Utah, and the prospect of creating wilderness that would be off-limits to energy development, off-road vehicles, and even mountain biking raises many hackles in the state.

"The bill, sponsored by Rep. Maurice Hinchey of New York, is not supported by a single member of the Utah delegation. The amount of land proposed for this designation is overwhelming — it is the approximate equivalent of the size of the State of Maryland," Utah Gov. Gary Herbert said in prepared comments presented to the subcommittee. "The State of Utah recognizes that the lands proposed for wilderness designation by this bill, lands that are managed by the Bureau of Land Management, are owned by the American people. However, we also find this proposal is, and always has been, an unrealistic and unvetted allocation of the natural resources of this great State. The proposal has not been presented by the sponsor to the many stakeholders in this issue, particularly the rural citizens who feel so passionately about the matter. Nor has the sponsor sought to balance the laudable goal of preserving our stunning scenic resources against the nation’s needs for wildlife conservation, recreational pursuits, and energy."

While Robert Abbey, director of the U.S. Bureau of Land Management that manages the lands in question, told the committee that many of the lands targeted by the legislation were "extraordinary, with unmatched wild land resources," he said the BLM has not closely reviewed each acre in question to determine its qualifications for wilderness designation. Beyond that, he, too, noted the contentiousness of wilderness designation in Utah.

"We also know that some of the areas proposed for designation present serious challenges because of existing and conflicting uses. For example, recreational use has exploded on public lands throughout the West, including in southern and eastern Utah. While many recreational activities, such as hunting and hiking, are compatible with BLM wilderness designation, others, such as mountain biking and OHV use, are not," Mr. Abbey said in his prepared comments. "OHV use, either in designated motorized use areas or on designated road networks, also presents serious conflicts in a number of wilderness areas proposed in H.R.1925, including Goldbar Canyon (section 104 (b)(8)) and Duma Point (section 108 (b)(5)). About 70 percent of the proposed Goldbar area is within BLM's Gemini Bridges/Poison Spider Mesa Backcountry Motorized Touring Focus Area; as many as 800 vehicles per day access this area. Similarly, we estimate that over 21,000 OHVs use the Duma area annually."

But in urging the subcommittee to support the legislation, Rocky Anderson, Salt Lake City's former mayor, not only invoked the word's of renowned conservationist Wallace Stegner but also touched on the growing popularity of low-impact recreation as well as on climate change and how off-road vehicles can contribute to it by disturbing soils that are blown away by storms only to settle on higher elevation snowfields, where they hasten melting.

"In 1960, Wallace Stegner, a westerner and former Utahn, articulated the imperative for wilderness with these words:

'Something will have gone out of us as a people if we ever let the remaining wilderness be destroyed; if we permit the last virgin forests to be turned into comic books and plastic cigarette cases; if we drive the few remaining members of the wild species into zoos or to extinction; if we pollute the last clear air and dirty the last clean streams and push our paved roads through the last of the silence, so that never again will Americans be free in their own country from the noise, the exhausts, the stinks of human and automotive waste,'" said Mr. Anderson.

"Those in Utah who resist protection of these places should take a clue from the visitors to our state who come to Utah, and keep coming back, because they are in awe of the geography they find there. Where else in the world can you go from the inspiring granite peaks of mountains like the Wasatch to the red-rock splendor of the San Rafael Swell in a four-hour drive? The beauty of the landscape is an astounding resource for Utah that sets it apart from most other places in the world, providing Utahns remarkable opportunities for outdoor recreation and serving as a magnet for tourists from other parts of the country and world," he added a bit later.

Mr. Anderson also pointed out that even if all 9.4 million acres were protected as wilderness, there still would remain "17,000 miles of dirt roads, jeep trails, and old mining tracks for off-road vehicle enthusiasts to enjoy on BLM lands on the Colorado Plateau. That figure does not include all trails in the Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument. Those who say we are 'locking up the land' and no one will have access to it except for backpackers and horse-packers should understand that they will have access too because 70% of the land proposed for wilderness designation within America's Red Rock Wilderness Act is within eight city blocks of a motorized route."

Not sharing Mr. Anderson's views was John Jones, a Carbon County, Utah, commissioner who said the bill would "place a nail in the coffin for rural Utah communities and render impossible any long‐term economic opportunities for the people in our counties who are surrounded by government‐owned land and whom we were elected to serve and represent."

"The idea that SUWA and its lackey, Mr. Hinchey, represents the voice of rural Utah is like saying King George III represented the American colonists on issues of taxation—it just isn’t so!" Mr. Jones added. "Our people have asked, how is it that a wilderness bill offered by a New Yorker on behalf of SUWA is treated seriously by this Committee when a BLM RMP (Resource Management Plan) developed locally over the course of seven years through a legitimate public involvement process is thrown out by our own Administration, thus squandering employment opportunities for our people in the process? This is not what we elected President Obama to do. Things here in Washington, D.C. are seriously off track. This bill threatens the very survival of rural Utah.

"We support reasonable protections for all public lands and wilderness designation when necessary to protect truly outstanding national treasures in their pristine state. However, the proposed Red Rock Wilderness bill targeting Utah would devastate our local economies even more so during this economic recession and at a time our country should be moving away from foreign energy. Moreover, the vast majority of the lands covered by the bill would actually suffer environmental degradation if subjected to leave‐it‐alone wilderness style management regimes. When the lands are not managed they are fire prone and lose their usefulness for razing, wildlife, watershed and recreation," he said.
This is serious guys.
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Red Rock hearing: Agreement on wilderness, but not on how or how much
Posted: 10/01/2009 3:47 PM
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by Matt Canham
The Salt Lake Tribune

Washington » Everyone who participated in a congressional hearing Thursday on a bill granting wilderness status to massive areas of Utah agreed the state has spectacular lands that deserve protection.
But passionate disagreements emerged over how to accomplish that.
Utah's five federal lawmakers appeared at the House subcommittee hearing to denounce the Red Rock bill, a statewide effort 20 years in the making that would protect 9.4 million acres from new roads, mining or off-road vehicles.
"There are beautiful pristine areas of Utah that need to be protected, but this bill goes far far beyond that," said Rep. Rob Bishop, R-Utah, the ranking Republican member of the public lands subcommittee. "This particular bill is a relic of the past. It has not been successful since the age of disco and it will not be successful now or in the future."
Utah's congressional delegation favors smaller county-level bills where local politicians, business leaders and environmentalists agree on what lands deserve the government's highest level of protection, such as the Washington County lands bill that designated more than 250,000 acres of new wilderness earlier this year.
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Jason'sLawnCare · Oct 2, 2009

I believe there is another thread just like this.

Jason'sLawnCare · Oct 2, 2009

Here it is

http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/off-roading-trails/54460-moab-might-gone-forever-sign-now.html

SilverSeven · Oct 2, 2009

also, nobody in utah is supporting it.
I dont think its going to happen.

4x4Runner · Oct 2, 2009

So I sent the email and this is the response I got.

Dear Mr. Xxxxxxx,
Thank you for contacting me to express your views on proposals to overhaul our nation's health care system. Ensuring all Americans have access to high-quality, affordable health care is one of my top legislative priorities, and an issue upon which I have taken an active leadership role in Congress.

Health care is intensely personal, and touches every American. Health care is not about bureaucratic "systems" and "payment flows" and complicated regulations in government jargon. Health care is about people. Quality health care is the foundation for our children to grow and prosper, just as it is the basis for seniors to enjoy comfortable retirements.

While the United States maintains one of the finest health care systems in the world, skyrocketing costs threaten the existing system and our ability to care for low-income and underserved populations. Health care spending is nearly one-fifth of the federal budget and growing at an unsustainable rate, and our employer-based health insurance system continues to burden small businesses and inhibit their ability to grow and create jobs. The situation is indeed dire, and we must uncover and implement ways to reverse these worrisome trends.

As you may know, Congressman John Dingell (D-MI) introduced the largest health care overhaul in a generation, H.R. 3200. Unfortunately, this $1,100,000,000,000 ($1.1 trillion) bill threatens to raise health care costs, reduce choice, and let government bureaucrats interfere with the patient-doctor relationship. It would create a government-run "public plan" that would force 114 million Americans out of the private health coverage they currently have and assess penalty taxes on families and small businesses struggling to make ends meet.

The bill is currently advancing through committee consideration in the House of Representatives, and was recently reviewed and debated in the Ways & Means Committee. As a Member of this committee, I offered amendments during debate on the bill to ensure that any Americans who like the health care coverage they have can keep it and to protect small businesses from an onerous new health care penalty tax if it would cause them to cut jobs or wages. Unfortunately, both amendments were defeated, which is one of many reasons why I opposed this legislation

I remain committed to protecting and strengthening your health care - protecting you from increased health care costs, losing the health plans you currently have, and letting the government interfere in your medical decisions; and strengthening health care by ensuring that better quality, more affordable care is available for all Americans. Congress needs to work together to transform our health care system in a way that helps Americans lead longer, healthier lives without diminishing the health care that we already have. We cannot accept a solution that could bankrupt this country while neglecting the unique health needs of individuals, families, and seniors.

I will continue to fight against a government-run public plan that could force millions of Americans to lose their health coverage, and instead advance common-sense solutions to transform health care in a way that ensures the American people, their freedoms, and their health come before costly, bureaucratic proposals. I urge you to visit my health care reform website at xxxxxx.xxx to see videos and news links of the debate on this bill, learn more about my efforts to transform our health care system, weigh in on polls, and share your personal health care stories in a constituent forum. Again, thank you for taking the time to get in touch with me. I value your interest and input, and hope to hear from you in the future about this or any other issue of importance to you.

Sincerely,

Representative name was here
Member of Congress

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SilverSeven · Oct 2, 2009

Kilted Chiken said: ↑

So I sent the email and this is the response I got.

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lol! why did you remove the reps name?

4x4Runner · Oct 2, 2009

SilverSeven said: ↑

lol! why did you remove the reps name?
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Because I sure as shit would not want my name associated with that response. Plus I really don't want anyone getting a wild drunken hair up their ass and emailing this rep's office for such a lame off subject response.

SilverSeven · Oct 2, 2009

Kilted Chiken said: ↑

Because I sure as shit would not want my name associated with that response. Plus I really don't want anyone getting a wild drunken hair up their ass and emailing this rep's office for such a lame off subject response.
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yeah that was pretty bad...

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