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Bolt Broke, Need Advice on Removing

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by TacoChino, Feb 18, 2015.

  1. Feb 18, 2015 at 9:51 PM
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    TacoChino

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    Ok, so the title was horrible but that was exactly what I was saying in my head!:eek:

    I spent the day putting the knowledge I got from here and flushed my coolant.

    All went well in that part...now for the fucked up part...wait for it....

    Two bolts broke completely in half as I was wrenching it to remove the skid plates.

    Now I'm left with this shit....

    Any tips to remove this would be highly appreciated...

    Coolant change was easier than I thought. The drain cock on the driver side was definitely HARD to get to but I figured it out.

    Lots of fun if you enjoy being a grease monkey.
     
  2. Feb 18, 2015 at 10:07 PM
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    Well, depends on what you have to work with. Did they break off flush?
    Pics would be great.
     
  3. Feb 18, 2015 at 10:25 PM
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    Buy a cheap extractor kit from harbor freight, drill the broken bolts and extract the bolts. The extractors are left handed cut so as you turn them they bite in and unscrew the bolts.
     
  4. Feb 18, 2015 at 11:43 PM
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    Here are the pictures, definitely going to check out the harbor freight bolt extractor! Thanks

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  5. Feb 19, 2015 at 12:03 AM
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    I assume you have tried vice grips? looking at the picture , can you spray the bolts with penetrating oil and turn it from the damaged thread end, turning it clockwise thread it all the way through the nut.
     
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  6. Feb 19, 2015 at 12:16 AM
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    Yeah, center punch it to give yourself a good starting point so not to be chasing the bit all over the place.
    While you are waiting soak it with some good spray PB blaster,WD 40 etc.
    If you have access to a torch you could heat it up. Heat helps.
    If no access to a torch....these will work.
    https://www.glassdistributorsinc.co...VchZgJP8NrMRt8zBgQUJttK0Gh_BEuz62txoCs4Dw_wcB
    Takes a little longer to heat stuff up, but will work in a pinch.
    Welding a nut to remaining portion of stud and then backing it out works also, but not sure if you have access to a welder.
    Try the extractor set (Vang) and go from there.
    Just throwing some idea's out there.
    Good luck with it. Let us know result's!
     
  7. Feb 19, 2015 at 12:43 AM
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    Do you really think this guy has a welder, or the know how to weld? He's a newbie wrencher. Lefty loosey, righty tighty. Use the extractor, see if that works. If not, it's off to a garage. As mentioned, it would only take 5 minutes to fix.
     
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  8. Feb 19, 2015 at 12:50 AM
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    they arent rusty , and there is 1/4 to 1/2 inch of bolt to clamp on to, i dont think he even needs an extractor. Id have those out in 5 minutes with a good pair of vice grips
     
  9. Feb 19, 2015 at 1:03 AM
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    The man asked for ideas....I am giving him ideas. He may know someone who does....maybe/ maybe not. He could be a heart surgeon for all I know.
    Mr. Divine thank you for your input, I will take it into consideration on the next one.
     
  10. Feb 19, 2015 at 5:15 AM
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    If a good pair of vice grips fails.

    This is a perfect time to buy yourself some more tools. Get a QUALITY EXTRACTOR set. Don't buy anything from Horrible Freight tool wise. You will end up busting your knuckles when the end of the extractor breaks off in the bolt and then you are stuck with a piece of extractor stuck in the hole that you can't drill out.

    http://www.sears.com/craftsman-5-pc-screw-extractor-set/p-00952315000P not sure if those are quality or not. But first one I found on a google search to give you an idea. I prefer square ones, some people like spiral ones

    Buy a center punch, and a good set of drill bits.

    Punch the center of the bolt. Drill a hole in the bolt. Heat the crap out of the nut, not the bolt. Drive the extractor in the hole you drill and try to crank it out.

    It's a time consuming process at times and takes some practice to get good at it.
     
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    soak with penetrant, grind bolt shaft down, use heat if available, vice grip the bolt where it's coming out the nut on the backside, see if that works
     
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    if you can reach them, I'd use a torch and baby vice grips. they'll come out

    or drill 'em and bolt extractor
     
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    Heat the bolt as hot as you can get it unless you have an acetylene outfit - needs to be at least 600* . Once the bolt and weld nut is hot - apply a bit of paraffin wax (canning wax - lots of uses besides canning) and allow it to cool a bit . Use a pair of vise-grips or buy a pair of battery pliers for excellent leverage and screw that bolt IN - it's a self-cutting thread and will probably gall the weld nut if you try to loosen it (counterclockwise) . If it cannot clear the bracket , cut the excess length off with a hack saw and finish removing . Paraffin is cheap and easy - machine shops been using it for 60yrs + to remove frozen old fasteners . Just don't use it on parts that require painting later - paint will never stick unless the part is blasted clean .
    Stuff can be bought in 1lb blocks at any decent grocery store , works excellent as a lube on wood slides ect and will waterproof canvas as well .
    Sarge
     
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    Yeah from the pics it looks pretty simple to remove and buy a good tap and die set even if you don't need it for this job....you will eventually.
     
  15. Feb 19, 2015 at 9:21 AM
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    Hey guys, all great advice and I no I am not a heart surgeon! I'm a chef and a Tacoma enthusist! I love my truck, camping, and now working on it!

    Will be heading out to hardware store to pick up some extractors and remove these babies...

    Definitely will post photos for everyone to see...

    Thanks again for all the help, fucking love this website!:bowdown:
     
  16. Feb 19, 2015 at 9:26 AM
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    extractor kits are worth the money, makes easy work. Ive used mine in plenty of situations.
     
  17. Feb 19, 2015 at 9:29 AM
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    Try this method first!
     
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    get a skid plate and do away with those brackets or have fun getting it out
     
  19. Feb 19, 2015 at 3:48 PM
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    Agreed , try this first , even without heat it should work , this is a better explanation of what I posted earlier, if it doesn't work you have the extraction method as back up but cut the excess bolt off so you don't gal the threads as mentioned, if you have to go to the extractor make sure you centre punch an get the hole as centred as you can, If the extractor kit comes with drill bits they may be left hand an sometimes they will grab and start turning the bolt out if you get lucky . Take your time, a broken extractor in the bolt is a worse problem than a broken bolt , be patient good luck
     
  20. Feb 19, 2015 at 6:41 PM
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    That Bolt is really F'd up. As there are lots of techniques to get these out and many ways depend on access, available tools, skill, etc. I'd do this;

    File or grind ONE end flat with the nut (to get rid of the damaged threads). Then I'd carefully drill a small hole as close and straight as possible through the bolt. Then I'd step up the drill size until the bolt is 3/4 + hollow. THEN I'd put the extractor in the bolt and extract it AWAY from the ground end). The removal of the center of the bolt reduces the pressure on the threads and makes it easier to remove. (and use a light oil to drill and before extraction. )

    There are many extractor sets at H Freight/Sears, etc. But the best one I've used is from snap on. SNAP ON TOOLS BLUE POINT 1020 SCREW EXTRACTOR

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/281577043803?lpid=82&chn=ps ~ 40$
     
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