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Delay in 4wd disengage

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by m5allen, Nov 13, 2022.

  1. Nov 13, 2022 at 5:25 PM
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    m5allen

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    I have never owned or driven a 4wd that didn't have the manual 4wd shifter, so the push button 4wd is new to me.

    Is it normal when in 4hi that there is a delay or some time of resistance where you push the dial in and try to put the truck back into 2wd and it doesn't want to go back into 2wd?

    As a real life example - I have had to use 4wd to get up a steep gravel driveway, and then I want to put it back in 2wd after getting up the hill - it takes a while and a little bit of fiddling with the push button before the truck let's me push the button in and rotate the setting back to 2wd?

    Thanks.
     
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  2. Nov 13, 2022 at 6:16 PM
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    Push the button, what button. You only turn the dial/switch. No button to push.
     
  3. Nov 13, 2022 at 6:19 PM
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    TacoTime55

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    Interesting that it's push-button...when the dial is set up for turning.
     
  4. Nov 13, 2022 at 6:21 PM
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    Don’t you push and turn it to get into 4low?

    edit. OP said 4hi

    my 4hi is pretty Instant gettin in and out. 4low isn’t slower but only a fraction slower
     
  5. Nov 13, 2022 at 6:26 PM
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    TacoTime55

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    The opening description does not mention going to 4L...which does require push but also having to stop the vehicle to engage 4L.

    OP talks about lag in 4H to 2WD...which I've done on a straight away highway and not any noticeable affects takes place other than the icon blinking on the display in front of the steering wheel.
     
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  6. Nov 13, 2022 at 6:27 PM
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    OK, yes, it is a dial that you push and turn. Not a push button. I used the wrong words.

    But hopefully the question is clear - there is a delay in turning the dial from 4hi to 2wd...most of the time I have to keep playing with the dial before the truck "let's me" turn the dial all the way to 2wd.
     
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  7. Nov 13, 2022 at 6:34 PM
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    m5allen

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    And to clarify...I run into this when I need to use 4wd for a short period of time, like pulling a boat on trailer out of a slippery ramp. Then after I get the boat out, I don't need 4wd anymore, so I stop and attempt to take the truck out of 4wd. I experience this after using 4wd and then stopping (truck is in N or D), and attempting to switch to 2wd.

    I haven't experienced this whole driving in 4wd and turning the dial to 2wd while continuing at the same speed.
     
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  8. Nov 13, 2022 at 6:38 PM
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    You can engage 4H while driving in 2WD at speeds at least 40/50mph simply by turning the knob. (It' good to do this at least once a month)

    Remember to switch it back to 2WD before making any sharp turns.
     
  9. Nov 13, 2022 at 6:38 PM
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    OP, set it and forget it (in motion) when going between 2H and 4H. The system will take care of the rest.
     
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    Coasting in a straight line in neutral is the quickest way. Big thing is no load, no turning.

    It will always take time.
     
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    Switches quicker while moving
     
  12. Nov 13, 2022 at 7:10 PM
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    Makes sense.

    Sometimes I don't have the luxury of coasting/moving though. I'll use the boat ramp example again... If I am in a small marina, I will have to pull the boat (or trailer) out and then quickly make a sharp turn to get out of the travel lanes. This is why I want to stop, and take it out of 4wd before making the sharp turn. This is when I have to keep messing with the dial to back in 2wd.
     
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    Easiest way to explain it is...the 4WD shift will be "delayed" if there is tension/load on the driveline. Once the tension is removed, the shift will usually complete. Try coasting if shifting at speed, or going into neutral if on the boat ramp.
     
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    I think if your still headed uphill when going back to 2wd then that could cause the delay.
    I have 2017 with MT and it seems to take a little longer for the 4wd to disengage regardless. I mean compared to wife's 2013 with AT.
    To get mine out of 4lo completely I've even had to let it roll backwards a bit.
     
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    If I’m understanding your posts right, you’re having trouble turning the actual knob?

    to go from 2HI to 4HI and back to 2HI, there is no pushing. You just turn the knob. If you accidentally push on the knob, it will not want to turn.

    you only push the knob When going from 4HI to 4LO and back to 4HI.
     
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    Turn dial, indicator light dtarts flashing, then go gear up or gear down, (in the the case of MT), make sure you not turning. If you have AT, just turn the dial, go straight not faster than 60 km/hr. In this case can take up to 50 seconds +/- to switch. Just my observations.
     
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    I read it that way too in Post #6, it says fooling with dial until it "Lets Him" turn it all the way.
     
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    Yup, exactly what I gathered as well. Sounded like it’s more fiddling with the knob rather than the truck not working properly.
     
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    Ok, this may be part of the cause. In some cases, I may be applying to much pressure when I am turning the dial. I will try and just gently turn the dial from now on. Thanks.

    But I do think what TacomMamba35 said is coming into play here as well - where if I use 4hi to climb an incline, then come to level ground, stop & put the truck in neutral before having to make a sharp turn and then turn the dial to 2wd, sometimes it doesn't want to go into 2wd right away. I don't experience this if the truck is rolling/coasting.
     
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  20. Nov 14, 2022 at 6:32 AM
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    Seems normal. Based on my own experience I sometimes need to start rolling (if stopped), or let off the accelerator (if moving) and the truck will complete the shift into 2H, from 4H. I wouldn't stress on this. I'd guess that it just takes a time for something in the t-case to make the change.
     
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