Home defense weapons

Oh hunting... My grandfather's thirty thirty Win 94 works for me

 

Beautiful gun (And buck), I have a marlin 336 that my Dad bought when he was a teen, he gave it to my grandpa when he moved out west, and then 3 years ago my grandpa gave it to me.

 

I enjoy it when a player slips and falls into the goalie's net, and the goalie beats the shit out of him. Stay out of the crease, indeed.

 

My dog will notify me of somebody walking down the street when they are 100ft away from my front door. He isn't a yipper and actually makes dog sounds so somebody would have to go thru him at the door first. One window looks out towards the front door and behind that is a building only occupied during the day.

If they get thru the door and my dog the only thing I have to worry about hitting is my girlfriend's cats, and...well...

 

Statistically you are 78 times more likely to commit suicide in your home with your firearm than you are to engage a criminal with it. I don't personally want shoot anyone (not even myself), so I keep a pump action shotgun in the house for defense. I figure that the "click-click" sound in a dark house is enough to convince someone to leave.

 

It also tells the invader where you're at

And that you have a pump action gun so you will be slower with follow up shots

 

Got a Remmy 870 tactical with loaded with buckshot, and a 9 mil with hollow points all at an arms reach of my bed.

 

It's better to have a choice of what statistic you will be a part of. Just sayin

 

I'm with you. I would rather have the shotgun than a 30/30 for defensive work. Still, my go to is the Glock 30S or Shield to get to my AR

 

Buy a shotgun...the sound of racking a shell is the most recognized sound on the planet. If a bad guy hears it I'm guessing he would tuck tail and run. A short barrel shotgun designed for home defense works best IMHO. I guess it depends on what type of dwelling you have. If I lived in an apartment or condo my choice is different than if I lived in a home in the country.

 

You, sir, are an idiot. That "click click" bullshit better be followed up with some competent employment of your weapon (should have had one in the chamber to begin with) if your adversary that particular time isn't afraid of the little sound of your pump, be it from drugs, his own gun, or whatever reason. If not I hope your chambered for a small round because he's going to shove that shotgun up your ass if you're too afraid to use it.

Also, YOU may be more likely to kill yourselves if given a gun but I don't default to wanting to off myself every time I get sad. Trotting out that meaningless statistic is ridiculous and inaccurate. Those that want to kill themselves will do it regardless of method.

 

Most bad guys who are intent on robbing a home generally don't want to get into a gun fight with a dude slinging a shotgun. Not saying in every case but most. Most important is what was posted earlier...train,train and train and have a plan.

 

Well gambling an invader may be timid enough to shit his pants a run when he hears the sound of a pump sliding is a risk I ain't willing I take. The downside to being wrong is way too high. Semi auto all day for me, with a round already chambered.

 

Wow, this thread went full retard a couple of times in less than 24hrs in the 6 pages that were created while I was gone.

Summary: those who know NOTHING of firearms recommend shotguns and especially racking them to scare would-be BG's away. Those who know firearms suggest firearms with little recoil for follow through and follow up, mobility and compactness. Something reliable and simple enough that even if you're injured you can easily manipulate and return effective fire. All firearms require proper shot placement and you are responsible for EVERY SINGLE PROJECTILE COMING OUT OF YOUR FIREARM. For shotguns this means you are responsible for every single pellet that exits your barrel. Personally, I'll take the firearm that has singular projectiles that I can place with pinpoint accuracy since just about ANY firearm capable of rendering a threat nonthreatening will penetrate most residential walls with ease. Your house is YOUR tactical advantage. You know it intimately. Use this to your advantage and ambush those who would do harm to you and yours. Giving any of this up at any point voluntarily (read: racking a slide on a shotgun) is just poor strategy. Whatever you choose the training is 95% of the thing. If you can run 20k shells through a shotgun to know how it patterns and how it handles and every minute aspect of the system then go for it. You will suffer a tremendous handicap right out of the gate due to mobility and recoil but if you have that kind of training it will likely overcome those for the most part. Most don't however and a shotgun is probably the absolute worst system for someone who has limited training. A home defense situation can be a myriad of situations and a handgun in a holster is about the most adept at being able to handle 99% of them. If you are faced with the 1% situation you use your handgun to fight your way to something longer for handling mob situations or whatever that 1% is that most of us couldn't even imagine. Yes, long guns offer a longer site radius but that only goes so far if you can't even bring the gun up to the engagement due to confined spaces. Advantage: hand gun. In a perfect world you would have your full 3-gun loadout on your person and ready to go but it just doesn't work that way in the real world. The handgun isn't perfect but meets the needs of a HD situation far better than any other type of weapon. For entry, a short AR15 probably gets the edge. The shotgun is really a dated system and while there are those who are surgical with them (I have more experience behind one that most reading this I'm sure) the more you use them the more you realize their shortcomings and the more you dislike actually using them. Be wary of the advice given to you by the same person who would recommend a 12ga shotgun for HD.

 

Just out of curiosity. Excluding military & LE (thank you all for your service btw), how many here have actually had to deploy a firearm in a home defense situation?

I've not and hope to never have to - but I'm quite confident in my skills in the event I ever had to.

 

Wrong. Double barrel shotgun, shot outside at the sky is the correct answer.

You make a very good point about sight radius with rifles. Longer sight radius absolutely helps when engaging targets at a long distance. But. Most houses are what, under 20yd from wall to wall?

 

That is a great point about site radius and being indoors. My only point in bringing it up is the longer radius you can employ the better. You'd be surprised how often someone can miss a 3yd shot with a handgun under stress. But I guess for that matter anyone that useless with a gun needs to train more or lock them up so they don't hurt themselves.

 

I almost pulled one on my gf's dad

Unknown to me, gf gave her dad the house key because he needed some paperwork of hers or something. She had left for work already and I hear the door start to open..think wtf?!

I had a hammer fired pistol at the time, cocked it, and LUCKILY he's retired military so he knew what the sound was. Announced himself, I acknowledged, and I went back to bed.

 

Once here.

It was enough, and if I never do it again it'll be one time too many. I listened to foot steps on the roof go all the way from the front door to the rear slider at 3AM, then watched my nightmare become a reality pretty quickly.