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Will .6 degrees pos camber cause escessive tire wear

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Why J, Mar 26, 2015.

  1. Mar 26, 2015 at 10:37 AM
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    I have read that the 0 degrees is optimal but given everything else the best the tech could achieve was .6 pos camber. But he is willing to take another shot at it if I am unhappy. I like the way the truck drives, I cant feel a difference over stock.

    What I am concerned with is excessive tire wear. I do rotate every 5k miles.

    ETA: 3" lift 285/75 r16 Duratracs.
     
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  2. Mar 26, 2015 at 11:22 AM
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    get some aftermarket UCA's you want 0 or slightly negative camber plus the truck will look funny like this \ -- /
     
  3. Mar 26, 2015 at 11:33 AM
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    I have aftermarket UCA's. I would never want negative camber on a truck.

    What I am asking is if .6 pos camber will excessively wear the front tires.
     
  4. Mar 26, 2015 at 11:35 AM
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    Over time, yes it will.

    I run negative camber on my truck. Not much but its there. Unfortunately when you set your caster angles the camber moves with it, so the higher faster you want the more positive camber you will gain.
     
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    For off-road only I would run negative camber. But my rig is 90% DD on pavement so I like a little pos camber.

    I have 3 degrees pos caster which is why is have the positive camber I do. Do you think it would be worth loosing some caster to gain the camber? To get the camber into a 0-3 pos degree range.
     
  6. Mar 26, 2015 at 11:58 AM
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    Yes you will chew up the outside edges of your tires pretty quickly and positive camber makes the truck look all retarded.

    -0.5 to -0.3 would be the best because at 0 camber my outside edges were still wearing faster than the inside.

    Keep in mind the rear has like -0.3 camber and the tires wear pretty evenly.
     
  7. Mar 26, 2015 at 12:25 PM
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    The outside of the fronts wear due to turning.
     
  8. Mar 26, 2015 at 12:33 PM
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    yes that's why keep the camber towards the negative side to compensate for that. My front tires are wearing slowly and evenly with camber on the negative side.
     
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    This right here. There is absolutely no reason as to why a little negative camber would hurt. As a matter of fact it would prevent scrubbing and chirping through turns in parking lots. Not only that, it would increase confidence in turning some. Hans has got it right.

    Losing some caster is not a big deal. Keep it over 2-2.2 degrees and your vehicle will track fine without much sensitivity to road crown.
     
  10. Mar 26, 2015 at 12:51 PM
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    Gotcha.

    I'm at the alignment shop now. I gave them my requested specs and they are looking it over to see what they can do.

    Thanks guys.
     
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    :thumbsup:

    Let us know how you end up.
     
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    I will.

    I have been using this shop since I stared buying tires and getting alignments so they usually do anything I request.

    I offered to pay since I am dead balls in the center of factory specs. But they said no charge.
     
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    sounds like a quality shop if they turn down money like that.

    Like stated just a smidge of negative camber, Nothing outrageous on the order -.3 ish is perfect, Tires will wear even etc.

    What UCA's you running, should be able to get quite a bit of caster and have plenty of play for camber adjustments if you have an aftermarket uca.
     
  14. Mar 26, 2015 at 1:23 PM
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    I don't remember the manufacturer of the UCA. It came with the lift.

    I asked for -1-0 camber and as much caster as they can throw at it and the tire not be into the body mount.

    Also asked for .02-.05 toe.

    Everything equal on both sides.
     
  15. Mar 26, 2015 at 1:25 PM
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    You're doing the right thing listening to these guys. Factory specs are a 'range'. However, being dead center isn't always the best, regardless of how logical it may seem. (and it does seem logical)

    Your tires and wallet will thank you for the change.;)
     
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    Guys had some trouble getting it where I wanted so I asked if I could take a look. They weren't adjusting the upper control arms correctly. The instructions weren't clear to the tech. After I showed him it literally fell into position. Like it was meant to be.

    -.1 Camber
    2.6 Caster
    .02 Toe

    Same both sides.

    Happy Dance!
     
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    Perfect. Sounds like you made out in this situation perfectly. Glad you were able to get it into good specs all around. Last alignment around for me was a total pain in the ass. Enjoy the better ride now!
     
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    NOICE!!!!!!

    what UCA's you running?
     
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    After having my aligment corrected for the optimal setting I spoke to the lift manufacturer and the tire manufacturer. Both confirmed that an .6 positive camber would not lead to abnormal tire wear with normal 5k tire rotation.
     
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