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Freedom of religion

Discussion in 'Personal & Emotional Support' started by coffeesnob, Apr 1, 2015.

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    Seriously?,
    Watch the news!
    Times were a lot different before all the technology took over, intrusive government surveilance, terrorism, more homeless people on our streets than ever, etc...
     
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    Absence of news coverage or electronics doesn't prove better times. Study history much?
     
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  3. Apr 5, 2015 at 4:50 PM
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    Was going to post much the same.
     
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    what correlation is there with increased electronic surveillance and an attack on "faith"? Or the increased homeless population?

    And lots of the "terrorism" that goes on is due to a different religion, rather than a lack of one


    are you suggesting that religion is the sole thing that keeps a person moral? and that science/tech is what's causing the "degradation"?
     
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    Duh!
    Read the post I quoted that I was answering!
    Or you just like to post things out of context to improve your arguement?
     
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    alrighty then
     
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    They've already tried. And a doctor still has morals and values. You don't have to be a priest for those

    Government has also past legislation mandating everyone under government health care to pay for abortions. Now while these things may not trouble you due to your preferred values, the fact that the Government can do this should.

    Again, its not about who's values are correct, its about weather the government should be allowed to govern values to this extent :thumbsup:
     
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  9. Apr 5, 2015 at 5:19 PM
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    Lol!
    Best post yet...

    alrighty then.jpg
     
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  10. Apr 5, 2015 at 5:22 PM
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    your original post says you're not against discrimination lol

    I'm trying to iron out your argument. So you're on the internet on a forum about modern trucks but think science and technology is destroying our country and think people moving away from religion is why people are losing their jobs and why fringe/radical Islamists are taking on the Jihad

    I'm asking how//where is your proof? I'm not asking for a yes/no

    I'm not overly religious, so by your assumption I'm a complete asshole?
     
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  11. Apr 5, 2015 at 5:24 PM
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    I mean, I am


    But I don't punch old people or steal stuff

    and i havent killed anyone yet
     
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  12. Apr 5, 2015 at 5:32 PM
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    Just out of curisoisty in what objective way has society gotten worse in the last few decades?

    ^ the post I was responding to
    v my response v

    Seriously?,
    Watch the news!
    Times were a lot different before all the technology took over, intrusive government surveilance, terrorism, more homeless people on our streets than ever, etc...



    Of course this is my opinion, formed from 50+yrs on this planet
    Back in my day we didn't have school shootings, but I guess my opinion only counts if it agrees with yours...

    And how do you assume that I assume your a "complete asshole"(your words)?
    I was pointing out that you weren't reading my post in the correct context!:rolleyes:
     
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  13. Apr 5, 2015 at 5:35 PM
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    lol you think the government hasn't been spying/doing shady things to it's own people until recently?

    Look up things like Operation Northwoods/Tuskegee Experiments and come back to me.

    Violent crime is at an all time low, civil rights are better than ever, the standard of living is climbing for everyone around the world. I'm sure homelessness is lower but I'm on my phone and can't/too lazy to find sources.


    The terrorists in the Middle East have just as much faith as you do in their religion. Just like Jewish, Zainist, Buddhist, people do.

    Christianity being moved away from has nothing to do with morality for most people. I don't need a book to not go around murdering people. It's scary that lots if people apparently do to be honest.
     
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  14. Apr 5, 2015 at 5:40 PM
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    A person that has moral strength only because they fear God is just asinine imo.
     
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    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014...l-shooting-deaths-down-not-up-across-america/

    Except school shootings have gone done over time.
     
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    You're the one picking parts of your own posts to reference...

    I asked twice if you think religion is the sole thing that makes someone moral, your answer was "duh!" and your OP was basically the same- I said I'm not religious, so I must be immoral and an "asshole"

    I've also asked twice why you think the movement away from faith was causing these things, and how, but you havet answered either, just that that's your opinion

    which is fine, but then I ask the question again

    why do you think the movement away from religion is the cause?

    I'm not trying to upset you or be a douche, I'm genuinely curious- I'm sorry if I come across as argumentative
     
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    I may be incorrect but don't the government funded abortions only pertain to victims of rape or incest ?
     
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    Patiently waiting for Mike Deason to weigh in with some pearls of widsom to really knock this thing off the rails once and for all.

    To everyone with a firm opinion of this matter, be it on the crazy side or the sane side (joking), your energy is wasted trying to win an argument on an internet forum. Just sayin.
     
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    Show me where I said the movement away from religion is the cause!
    I also don't think you're a complete asshole, just a Troll that likes to misinterpret peoples posts to further their own interest!


    So Good For You!
     
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    I would say he's referring to that part ^


    So , " times were a lot different " how ?
     
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