15x8 Wheels that fit now?

I'm needing some help with wheels.

I hate my stock wheels, since they seem impossible to get balanced, might be out of round, and the clear coat has long since die.


^THESE ARE MY CURRENT WHEELS (and I hate them). 15x7, and clear the caliper.
(alloy 15x7 4runner style, that came stock on my 2000 trd tacoma)


So, I found the thread that lists wheels that fit...

90% of the wheels listed no longer exist, or manufactured/carried anymore... Its outdated and doesnt work anymore.
I've been searching for about a week, cross referencing the list and getting progressively more pissed off with each passing day.

HERE'S A LINK TO THE DAMNED OUTDATED CRAP WHEEL GUIDE:
http://web.archive.org/web/20081007213703/http://www.ttora.com/wiki/index.php/Tire_and_Wheel_Fitment

The caliper clearance caveat garbage makes zero sense, nor does it help. I have standard 4 piston calipers, and I dont have ABS. The truck came stock with 15x7's.


What I'm looking for: 15x8, 6 on 5.5, clear the calipers *without spacers*, prefer steel to aluminum, backspacing to stick out a bit from the fenders (running 31x10.5r15 hankook dynapro ATM, with a 3" lifted OME suspension kit), black (gloss or flat), and look good. (Not going UP to 16, because my tires have less than 10K on them, and I like 15" wheels)



Anyone buy a set recently that worked?
(Wheelers is my last resort, as I dont like the look)

 

Literally, anyone?

 

Bump, because help would be cool.

 

Those stock alloys painted black look real good. Those and the pro comp 7069s are MY favourite for these trucks. What makes you think the tires wont balance?

 

aftermarket wheels are what you will have to settle for or if you want stock wheels then I think you are going to have to switch to 16's.

everything is 16's now and you can find those fairly easy so that would be y suggestion, the only thing you need to do is replace the speedo gear thingy in the tranny which I understand is a straight forward easy thing to do yourself.

I had been contemplating switching from my 16's down to 15's to get a 2" drop in truck height between the rim size and much smaller tire heights but just as you found out they are hard to find. I ended up just keeping my 16's and putting on a new set of tires

 

Rim size has nothing to do with ride height and gearing...

 

I cant get them balanced. I went wheeling pretty hard, and balance has never been able to be gotten back correct.

I really dislike how weights seem to just disappear really easy on these.

 

well when you switch from 16 rims to 15 rims and tires you do sit lower, just the rim size alone puts you 1/2" lower plus you can use tires that are not as tall to shave a little more height off.

granted its not "lowering kit" numbers but you can get a little difference there, sometimes an inch lower is all it takes not to bump your foot getting in.

as to gearing, your speedometer will no longer read correctly when you change rim sizes, that's not fantasy that's a fact. call it what you want the ratios do change "some" but no its not going to be any difference that you can feel

 

I dont understand what your getting at... A 31" tire on a 15" rim is the same size as a 31" tire on a 16" rim. Only thing that changes is the amount of side wall.

 

because you are using a 16" tire 31" high that is a different size then a 15" tire that is a 31" high tire. there is a whole lot more involved then just picking a set tire height but you can choose tires that are solely based on that.

go here: http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoTireMath.do

and put in a 265/70/16 tire and a 265/70/15 tire and click compare to see it gives you a 3.14" difference in tire circumference or height so the 15" rim it going to make your truck 1.5" lower because only half of the tire height translates into raising or lowering the vehicles height since only the bottom have creates the difference.

 

Those are 2 totally different sizes. A 31" tire on a 15" rim is a different size on a 16" tire. Your sidewall height changes. On a 15" tire you would have more sidewall than a 16" tire. So you lose no ride height whatsoever.

 

So, just clarifying for everyone:

---2000 TACOMA 4x4 STOCK WHEELS ARE 15 INCHES---

I'm not going down in size damnit

 

I've got 15x8 MT sidebiters that fit

 

I never said anything about 31" tires, that's you fixation not mine, I was saying different rim sizes use different tire sizes and the result can change ride height.

I assumed you could read what was there, tire circumference is the tire height and my point is well documented there even though you refuse to look at it.

as the OP said he isn't changing sizes anyway so this has nothing to do with his thread

 

Thats just the way the tires are measured. Using an equivalent size tire

31" was just an example and using that measure of unit (31,33,35,etc..) rim size doesnt matter at all. Your just saying how the tire size is measured changes with different rim sizes. If using the equivalent size tire rim size doesnt really matter.

 

^^^ when you try to explain Something to someone but end up getting called stupid...

OP. It is a pain to get the weights to hold real tight because its a bitch to get them over the thick lip on the back side of the rims. when wheel is on a balancer you should be able to see if rim is warped. If not you could clean up rim and put stick on weights. If still getting a vibration or whatever your problem is you may have other issues.

 

I had the same issue and went back to my tire shop twice until they balanced right. They ended up gluing a small weight or two on the inside of the rim that cleared the brakes which helped. Invested a few bucks in paint, sacrificed an old deck of UNO cards and am now happy with the stock rims. Good luck!

 

Keakar when comparing metric tire sizes it gets confusing because of they way they are measured. A 265/70/16 compared to a 265/70/15 is a whole different size(as u found out) how ever it's not because the wheel size is creating it, they're simply just two different size tires due to the sizing system. Eventhough one would think its the same just a bigger or smaller hole in the tire. To compair metric sizes to try and get rhe same size tire but a different wheel size the numbers will be completely different. Example...a 255/75/15 is real similar to a 265/70/16. If you wanted to go from 16's to 15's and keep your same ride height go with the 255's(again this is just an example don't hold me to these numbers I think there's like a half inch difference between those two tire sizes) Now if you compair standard size tires, say 33/12.5/15 vrs 33/12.5/16 you do not gain or lose ride height! It only changes the amount of sidewall. Thus not needing to change gear ratio or anything like that. Devinzz only used a 31" tire as a base for explaining what he was trying to explain. Play with the tire calculator(similar to the one you linked) at the bottom of the page and punch in metric sizes then play with standard sizes, you'll see the metric sizing is a whole other beast that doesn't make a whole lotta sence, but if one number is off it has a big effect on tire size.
Toyotaco and devinzz are 100% right in what they said! You are also right but where you're going wrong is you can't compair metric sizes by only changing rim size, changing rim sizes changes everything in the metric world. Yes going from a 16" to a 15" will result in setting 1/2" lower, but, only if you change your tire height or run without tires will that come into play. Saying devinzz jacked this thread with stupidity was a little extreme...
For others that are now confused after reading this... Rim size doesn't change ride height!!!! For ease of explanation we'll use standard sizing, a 33" tire is a 33" tire, regardless of rim size!

 

FFS.

Example: 275/70-16
275mm wide. 275/25.4=10.8". Then a 70% ratio of 275 is 192.5mm of side wall. 192.5/25.4=7.58". 7.58" times two sidewalls is 15.16". Add in the WHEEL size and you get a 31.16" tall tire. Final answer would be a metric equivalent of a 31/11-16.

15" steelies can be purchased at almost any online vendor. That's your cheapest option that looks decent IMO.

 

what you said explains it well and i never disputed that, but the part you are leaving unsaid is that you are using different tire sizes to compensate for the differences in rim height, so in effect the tire is making up for the difference. if you only go by tire height and ignore the rest then yes a 31" tire is always a 31" tire no matter the rim size but this is only because you are using other different size tires metrics to get to the same 31" height. also i didn't say i was comparing tire sizes, i said changing rim size when the tire size "stays the same" will change ride height as well as effect gearing "slightly" which is why the speedo gear sometimes needs to be replaced when doing it.

all i said way back at the beginning was that ride height "can be" used to achieve a difference in ride height through creative tire sizing. this was disputed and that's what i defended. his "absolute" statement that "rim size does change anything" was and still is wrong because it does, "unless" you change the other tire metrics to compensate for the differences to make it not matter. that is a far cry from "rim size doesn't matter" because that statement leaves a lot of unsaid differences in the tires that is required to make it true.

as to calling him stupid, that's his projection, i only said continuing to argue about it was stupid because we were having different points and he could not see that. plus the OP came in and said he wasn't changing rim size and didn't want to talk about it so we were jacking the thread with this. i told devinzz to drop it because it was stupid for him to try to prove i was wrong when i wasn't just because he couldn't understand there are other tire metrics involved beyond just selecting tires by height. continuing to argue two completely different points when we are both right was dumb yet he refused to accept other tire metrics exist that do and can change ride height so i could not leave his insistence that rim size doesn't matter unchallenged when it is a proven falsehood "unless you just choose to ignore the other tire metrics being changed to keep the overall heights same