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Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by SargeBSA, May 4, 2015.

  1. May 5, 2015 at 8:25 PM
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    Brjw

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    It is not the same.

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    First off, the front of a JK is completely different. The sway bar can safety be rotated completely clear of the steering and suspension with no interference. I don't believe it can on the tacoma.

    Look at the pins. It is a large smooth shape that fights tightly into the bushing sleeve. The pin is bolted securely to the sway bar and axle end. Any slop is very minimal as it is designed to hold everything secure.

    As I said earlier, the OP's idea has no way to securely mount the end links. Threaded studs loosely pushed into the mounting holes. There is no tight fit. So the whole assembly is allowed to shake and move and vibrate. Each cycle on one side allows some free movement followed by a hard hit. It may work for a little while but the holes and threads will get wallowed out, and the weaken threads (you know the ones he drilled a hole in) will shear. And once again, there isn't clearance for the sway bar to loosely hang out in there.
     
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  2. May 5, 2015 at 8:34 PM
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    Yes sir
    This is so exciting :popcorn:
     
  3. May 5, 2015 at 8:56 PM
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    You should listen to your parents especially if you still live with them, unless she's a crack head or something.
     
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  4. May 5, 2015 at 9:05 PM
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    Brjw post makes a lot of sense, I'm not hating I think it's good you made it yourself but it will probably wear out of there's slop in it, it won't break in your 1000 mile trip to Florida. But after 5 years and another 100k miles you might swerve around a deer and parts break, or you wreck or roll over.

    If you take the sway bar off though you should take corners slower, there are people out there that will sue your pants off and even if you win you still gotta pay the lawyer.
     
  5. May 5, 2015 at 9:07 PM
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    Snowman I have a problem for your solution…

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    Not saying your idea is bad or unsafe because I honestly don't know. But how would a shotgun absolve you of liability if your idea proved to be unsafe causing injury or death?
    Would a shotgun threat be your defense if you were sued or charged? Seems like that would cause more problems than solutions...
     
  6. May 5, 2015 at 9:12 PM
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    I think we ran off op
     
  7. May 5, 2015 at 9:25 PM
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    Maybe he's at dollar tree getting more Velcro for his $8 swing out tire carrier mod.
     
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  8. May 6, 2015 at 3:50 AM
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    If he still doesn't understand why it is a bad idea, he should modify his tie rod ends the same way (after breaking the tapered stud free from the knuckle) and see how it turns out. It is essentially the same thing.


    I don't think anyone here is trying to be a dick, we're just trying explain that this is a bad idea. I love sway bar disconnects, but this won't work. My ranger and explorer had limited travel up front, and allowed me to remove one end link. With the other side disconnected, I had full travel and the "loose" end of the sway bar wasn't able to contact anything else. It was great! On my JK I had the rubicon front sway bar disconnect. Also great due to no interference and a solid way to re-connect. I've also completely removed sway bars with no regrets. But having it poorly connected is stupid and unsafe. Good idea, poor execution.
     
  9. May 6, 2015 at 9:00 AM
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    We're glad that you're sticking around :taco:
     
  10. May 6, 2015 at 10:00 AM
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    maybe try an idea like they posted above from the jeep, doesnt look like it would cost too much either.
     
  11. May 6, 2015 at 9:12 PM
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    ^Don't think that will work either. The way Toyota designed the sway bar on the 2nd gen Taco, the sway bar end must be kept "fixed" relative to the spindle, else it will interfere with the CV or tie rod.

    KDSS effectively deletes one of the two frame attachment points and lets the sway bar "float" on a telescopic strut. The strut's valving is controlled by the relative position of the front and rear axles. On the loosest setting, KDSS still doesn't give as much articulation as having no sway bar at all, but it functions transparently with no user input.

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  12. May 6, 2015 at 10:52 PM
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    KDSS is about as reliable as your brakes or shocks (i.e. good enough). Its main drawback is the amount of space it takes. Imagine undoing one of the sway bar frame mounts on the Taco and modifying the frame so the sway bar doesn't hit anything - the system reduces ground clearance and approach angles. Notice how much lower the front skid plate is compared to the Taco's.

    I think I may be able to give this a try...

    Is the guy wheeling in a cemetery? :laugh:
     
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  13. May 6, 2015 at 11:14 PM
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    I edited my post. By pulling up on the sway bar when the wheel moves up, it prevents the sway bar from ever contacting the tie rod or CV boot.

    Hmm, I still have the 1/2" rod ends from my HD link experiment a while back. Just need to purchase a couple of long 1/2" bolts...

    [​IMG]
     
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    What a great find, I hope op uses his shotgun from his moms basement.
     
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    A treasure trove of people to put on ignore.
     
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