1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Installed Dakar add-a-leaf, now steering wheel is crooked

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by 20vmki, Jun 3, 2015.

  1. Jun 3, 2015 at 7:05 AM
    #1
    20vmki

    20vmki [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2014
    Member:
    #132329
    Messages:
    464
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Eric
    Florida
    Vehicle:
    '03 PreRunner Limited
    OME 3in lift, Spidertrax 1.25in spacers
    Not sure if the above two are related but last night I installed an extra leaf into my OME Dakar leaf packs. During the test drive I noticed that the steering wheel was a bit crooked when driving straight. The truck didn't pull, just the wheel wasn't straight.

    I tried to measure how straight the rear wheels were and noticed that the passenger wheel is maybe 1/2 in closer to the fender flare than the driver's side, I am not sure if that would cause what I am seeing with my steering wheel.

    Has anyone run into this issue before or do think I am looking at two unrelated issues?

    I am pretty sure I would have noticed the crooked steering wheel before so :shrug:

    Tonight I plan on checking the axle to make sure everything is square, after that, alignment.

    Thanks!
     
  2. Jun 3, 2015 at 7:09 AM
    #2
    bldegle2

    bldegle2 OldPhart

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2013
    Member:
    #102169
    Messages:
    1,645
    Gender:
    Male
    San Francisco, Ca.
    Vehicle:
    2009 Prerunner TRD AccessCab
    New Navigation DVD/CD/TV/AV/Bluetooth Stereo and seat mod spacers, 1" hubcentric spacers, seat heaters....
    your rear end is not aligned exactly like it was before, double check centering pin ....
     
  3. Jun 3, 2015 at 7:16 AM
    #3
    20vmki

    20vmki [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2014
    Member:
    #132329
    Messages:
    464
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Eric
    Florida
    Vehicle:
    '03 PreRunner Limited
    OME 3in lift, Spidertrax 1.25in spacers
    What should I double check? I am sure the center pin is in the hole in the axle bracket, is there something else to look at? Many thanks.
     
  4. Jun 3, 2015 at 12:32 PM
    #4
    tan4x4

    tan4x4 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2011
    Member:
    #67982
    Messages:
    3,807
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rick
    Folsom, CA
    Vehicle:
    99 Tacoma EC 4x4 2.7L Auto
    Bilsteins, OME 881's, 3-leaf AAL, Detroit TruTrac, Tundra brake swap, Michelin LTX AT2, Tranny skidplate, TC skidplate, CBI rear bumper, TG sliders, UltraGauge, PowerTank, Reverse Camera
    I've seen some axle brackets that have 2 holes, not just one, for the center pin to set into. Make sure, if you have 2 holes, that the same one is used on both sides.
     
  5. Jun 3, 2015 at 12:42 PM
    #5
    OldManKamps

    OldManKamps Member

    Joined:
    May 28, 2015
    Member:
    #156216
    Messages:
    23
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Paul
    This is actually pretty hilarious, what a strange realization that must have been. "Wait a minute, I'm turned left but going straight"
     
  6. Jun 3, 2015 at 6:09 PM
    #6
    20vmki

    20vmki [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2014
    Member:
    #132329
    Messages:
    464
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Eric
    Florida
    Vehicle:
    '03 PreRunner Limited
    OME 3in lift, Spidertrax 1.25in spacers
    Well it was a very slight turn of the wheel, but enough to notice.

    So tonight I loosened up both leafs and banged on them a bit before tightening them up. I was able to see one leaf pack shift, good news. I go for a test drive and now the wheel goes the OTHER WAY to drive straight, but at much less of an angle. So I guess I did too good of a job :p

    I plan to take it in for an alignment tomorrow and see if all is within spec or not and if it just needs a small adjustment.

    Thanks for all the input and I'll follow up after the alignment.
     
  7. Jun 3, 2015 at 6:26 PM
    #7
    keakar

    keakar Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2014
    Member:
    #139537
    Messages:
    5,258
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    karl
    louisiana
    Vehicle:
    2006 4runner sport 4.7L V8 (white)
    used to have - 99 2.4L I4 5 lug & 04 prerunner v6
    something still isn't right then, loosen the u-bolts with the back wheels just off the ground and then tap/beat on the axle as far to the rear as it will go then as far forward and measure both ways from the rear bumper. maybe one of your axle mount holes could be rusted out and not centering correctly or you didn't clean out the hole properly for it to seat correctly.

    going get an alignment will do you no good since they only do the front end and your issue is with the rear.

    another good point of reference for aligning things up is the nut on top of the springs tells you the center point that should be centered in the spring pad.

    also, did you replace the hanger shackles? if so confirm they were installed correctly at the right angles
     
  8. Jun 3, 2015 at 6:32 PM
    #8
    20vmki

    20vmki [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2014
    Member:
    #132329
    Messages:
    464
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Eric
    Florida
    Vehicle:
    '03 PreRunner Limited
    OME 3in lift, Spidertrax 1.25in spacers
    That's kinda what I did tonight, just seems like I "adjusted" too much, as now my problem went the other way (steering left to steering right). Nothing is really rusty at all on the truck, the leaf pack center pin goes cleanly into the axle mounting bracket, and u-bolts go in clean.

    The goal with the alignment is for them to measure toe (which should mean the axle isn't square) like they did here when I first got my lift, and make sure it's not some crazy number:

    IMG_20150107_192034_8f7e45d33fef4d7f5f482b96be14a906c874128f.jpg
     
  9. Jun 3, 2015 at 7:04 PM
    #9
    keakar

    keakar Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2014
    Member:
    #139537
    Messages:
    5,258
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    karl
    louisiana
    Vehicle:
    2006 4runner sport 4.7L V8 (white)
    used to have - 99 2.4L I4 5 lug & 04 prerunner v6
    well when my bump stops went in they didn't have any movement to them and the same for the leaf bolt. when I jiggled it there was no movement so if yours has movement then something is bigger then normal so maybe your new leafs have more room in the hole because the center bolt is different.

    I agree with getting the alignment but ....

    I would still first square the rear axle with the rear bumper, if it hasn't ever been damaged or hit, and if its questionable then go to the tranny mount or frame cross member but be sure that rear axle is dead center square in the frame or anything else you do is wasted effort. if you fix the rear by resetting the front then it will go straight but be driving down the road at a crooked angle when someone is behind you (not a good look lol).
     
  10. Jun 3, 2015 at 7:33 PM
    #10
    20vmki

    20vmki [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2014
    Member:
    #132329
    Messages:
    464
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Eric
    Florida
    Vehicle:
    '03 PreRunner Limited
    OME 3in lift, Spidertrax 1.25in spacers
    I agree with you, I just don't know how much closer I can make it. We're talking about less than half an inch.
     
  11. Jun 4, 2015 at 4:12 AM
    #11
    20vmki

    20vmki [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2014
    Member:
    #132329
    Messages:
    464
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Eric
    Florida
    Vehicle:
    '03 PreRunner Limited
    OME 3in lift, Spidertrax 1.25in spacers
    Steering wheel angle

    IMG_20150604_064544.jpg
     
  12. Jun 4, 2015 at 6:50 AM
    #12
    Deathbysnusnu

    Deathbysnusnu Work is just a daily detour to happy hour.

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2013
    Member:
    #113825
    Messages:
    17,231
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Brett
    Fort Crawlins, CO
    Vehicle:
    Vintage Tundra
    Dog, camper.
    Your steering wheel being out is not uncommon, adding the leaf is enough to raise the rear and change your castor ever so slightly which in turn affects the camber and toe in.
    As the rear comes up, the front tilts down. Your install is prolly just fine, the alignment will take care of the offset wheel.
     
  13. Jun 4, 2015 at 6:54 AM
    #13
    bjmoose

    bjmoose Bullwinkle J. Moose

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2010
    Member:
    #42529
    Messages:
    6,009
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Steve
    San Jose CA
    Vehicle:
    '11 Std Cab 4x4 5sp
    OME suspension, ARB Air Lockers, CBI/Relentless/Pelfrey armor, HAM radio
    I bet the front wheel was already like that and you previously hadn't noticed.

    Alignment will take care of it. On any truck with stability control VSC, you would need that to be corrected since steering angle sensor is one of the inputs into VSC engagement. On your pre-VSC truck, though, it's just cosmetic.
     
  14. Jun 4, 2015 at 7:18 AM
    #14
    keakar

    keakar Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2014
    Member:
    #139537
    Messages:
    5,258
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    karl
    louisiana
    Vehicle:
    2006 4runner sport 4.7L V8 (white)
    used to have - 99 2.4L I4 5 lug & 04 prerunner v6
    to be in alignment the rear axle should be no more then 1/16" and at the most 1/8" off square or it drives that much crooked.

    try trimming a board to the correct size then slide the axle up against it (just tapping on it, no beating) and then snug it in place, then do the same for the other side and pull out the tape measure to check its the same on both before torqueing it down.

    being 1/2" out on rear axle alignment is HUGE, are you sure you didn't put one of the leafs back in backwards? because the centering pin is offset (I think to the front end)
     
  15. Jun 4, 2015 at 11:05 AM
    #15
    20vmki

    20vmki [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2014
    Member:
    #132329
    Messages:
    464
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Eric
    Florida
    Vehicle:
    '03 PreRunner Limited
    OME 3in lift, Spidertrax 1.25in spacers
    Alignment today showed 0.28/-0.24 degrees of toe on the rear. If I did my math right that's less than 5/32 in of error (or 5/16 in total error, a little over 1/4 in)

    They also had to adjust the front alignment, as you guys mentioned, due to the change in the lift in the rear. Wheel is now straight and drives straight.
     
    Catfish21 likes this.
  16. Jun 4, 2015 at 1:01 PM
    #16
    OldManKamps

    OldManKamps Member

    Joined:
    May 28, 2015
    Member:
    #156216
    Messages:
    23
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Paul
    Glad to hear it man!! Good luck on your straight travels :)
     
  17. Jun 4, 2015 at 1:15 PM
    #17
    trexTRD

    trexTRD Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2014
    Member:
    #127672
    Messages:
    1,017
    Gender:
    Male
    California
    Fox All Around, MaxTracs, Black & Red Leather Seats, Straight Pipe, and other crap...
    I'd check to see if the center pin is "sit" correctly, why would it through your alignment off
     

Products Discussed in

To Top