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Tire/wheel suggestions or guidance please.

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by sddarkman619, Jun 29, 2015.

  1. Jun 29, 2015 at 10:37 PM
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    sddarkman619

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    I have a 2015 Tacoma DBL cab TRD Sport.
    I'm getting the rear lifted 2" and front lifted 3".

    I've been researching rim and tires and I have the TRD sport alloy rims which are from what I can see is :
    TRD Sport Alloy Wheels: 17x7.5, +30 mm offset, 5.5" backspacing, 6x5.5" bolt pattern

    The tires I want and what look like will fit my rim still are BFG All-Terrain T/A KO2 - 285/70/17
    Basically a 32.71" tire, almost 33".

    If you scroll all the way to the bottom you can see their specs for a rim:
    http://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/tire...NW/all-terrain-t-a-ko2/tire-details#techspecs

    Rim width:7.5" - 9"


    So my questions are even though I think or see it should fit, anyone have any opposing thoughts?

    Anyone running these tires on the TRD Sport 17" rims?

    If so is there any rubbing anywhere?

    Do I need to get a different UCA? Or LCA?

    Any help would be most appreciated.

    Thanks
    Larry

     
  2. Jun 30, 2015 at 5:23 AM
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    This is an often unanswered question. I have a 2010 sport and tried out 285/70/17 Cooper ST Maxx and they fit, barely. I'm looking at new wheels to improve my travel for off roading. If you don't plan on off roading you may be fine. But if you do, your clearance to the UCA is so minimal any upward or interior travel and you're easily rubbing it. I have a set of All Pro UCAs on the way to help deal with that. I think their group buy ends today ...
     
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  3. Jun 30, 2015 at 5:33 AM
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    You'll need wheel spacers most likely.
     
  4. Jun 30, 2015 at 7:20 AM
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    Yup, you will want to get some wheel spacers if you plan to run stock wheels with 285s so you can clear the UCA.
     
  5. Jun 30, 2015 at 7:34 AM
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    Thanks for the replies, more questions. Any suggestions on which UCA I should buy or what spacers and where to purchase?
    What if I buy different rims?
     
  6. Jun 30, 2015 at 7:44 AM
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    First off, what lift are you getting? For wheel spacers, spidertrax and bora 1.25" spacers are popular, something hub centric is what you'll want to get. For UCAs it depends on budget...headstrong offroad has the cheapest option, look at their Light Racing UCAs. You won't need the wheel spacers if you get aftermarket wheels with 4.5 ish backspacing.
     
  7. Jun 30, 2015 at 8:29 AM
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    The lift I am "building" piece by piece, is going to be:
    Rear:
    Bilstein 5100's (already have to install)
    Toytec Progressive 3 Leaf Add A Leaf Pack (already have to install)

    Front: I have nothing for the front which is why I am researching the options but what I intend on getting for the lift are:
    Bilstein 5100's
    Toytec / Eibach Heavy Duty 2.5″ Lift Front Coil Spring Set, adding 1/2" spacers for 3" total front lift.
    Driver spacer for taco lean


    and that is/are my plans for the lift, so I am researching the front, I think I am ok in back now.
    I'll probably do the Carrier bearing drop, maybe axle shims?

    I will be doing some off roading, which is what I bought the truck for, not to ride on the street clean. :) She is my toy.

    So I just want the front to be good the FIRST TIME, advice given was do it right the first time, not the 2nd time.

    SO all help is much appreciated. These things for the front are confusing though but I am trying to educarte my self by using the search feature.

    I am not sure what the back spacing is, or the offset.

    What I am hearing is with aftermarket rims I won't need the spacers, but I'll still need the UCA's, correct?
    or
    if I do use my stock rims I will need the spacers and the UCA's?

    I am trying to conserve money but I am not willing to conserve to hurt the project. I am patient and am willing to save and do it right the first time.

    Suggestions?
    and thank you!
     
  8. Jun 30, 2015 at 8:45 AM
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    Okay, so with any front lift above 2.5" you will want UCAs. It's not required, but your truck will drive much better with them. If your wheels do not have the correct backspacing and you try to run 285s you will rub the UCAs (even if they are aftermarket). The ideal backspacing for wheels to run 285s on our trucks is around 4.5 or 4 so shoot for that. Your stock wheels are 5.5, which is why you'll need the wheel spacers.

    As for your lift, sounds like you are on a good course. I would suggest looking into the OME 887 coils (just because I love mine so much :D). I believe they have a slightly lower spring rate than the Eibachs. They got me just a little shy of 3" up front without any top plate spacers and the ride is very smooth.
     
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  9. Jun 30, 2015 at 9:19 AM
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    Hmm so a 9" wide wheel with 5" backspacing may not be optimal? That's what I was looking at and seemed like it would provide solid clearance.
     
  10. Jun 30, 2015 at 9:48 AM
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    With 285s? It may clear them, I've only heard of it being an issue with the stock wheels...hopefully somebody else will chime in because I'm not exactly sure.
     
  11. Jun 30, 2015 at 9:52 AM
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    Go in your truck and crank the tires all the way to the stops then look at your UCA and see how close they are. I'll just tell ya if you're lazy. They are realllllly close with a stock set up. You are gonna need rims with a 4.5 inch backspace. The difference between the 5.5 and 4.5 inch backspace means that your tires are mounted to the rims an inch further away from your uca aka providing adequate clearance. I have the same thing lift kit you do and I had to buy new rims
     
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  12. Jun 30, 2015 at 10:19 AM
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    There you go. If you really like the stock wheels you can do the spacers, but for peace of mind and a few hundred bucks more you can get aftermarket. Up to you.
     
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    OK so now my head is thinking rubbing and driving nicely.

    So I don't need the UCA but it will help with the alignment and driving aspect. It's not about rubbing?

    Now to run 285's I would need the proper backspacing in order for the tires to NOT rub on UCA? So either new rims with proper backspacing or wheel spacers to give proper clearance, not backspacing. This compensates for the backspacing of the rim, correct?

    So ideally though really, I would get the UCA and New rims with proper backspacing to run the 285's. Right?

    After that, is there any trimming of the fenders I would need to do and there should be no rub on UCA's correct?

    I'm reading an article on the wheel stuff here:

    http://www.fourwheeler.com/how-to/wheels-tires/129-0602-wheel-backspacing-etiquette/
     
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    I'd rather do it right the first time. so saving and waiting is ok.

    S and J, did you have to do any trimming of anything? and I am assuming you did UCA's?
     
  15. Jun 30, 2015 at 11:00 AM
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    If you get new UCAs it is for alignment purposes only (which will make the ride more enjoyable). I have a 3" lift on stock UCAs, ride is fine but there is some minor steering wheel shake. I will be getting LR UCAs soon.

    If you want to run 285s you will need wheel backspacing of roughly 4.5" otherwise the tires will rub the UCA (even if it's aftermarket). If you have much more than that (5.5" for example) wheel spacers will push them out, allowing your tires to clear the UCA.

    With 285s you should expect some light to moderate trimming of the bumper/fender unless you are okay with rubbing in reverse, at full lock, and over bumps. I was not so it's trimmed. I posted pics of how much I trimmed somewhere on here...I'll try to dig that up...
     
  16. Jun 30, 2015 at 11:12 AM
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    Good question! I just ordered them today. I'll let you know next week :notsure: how it works!
     
  17. Jun 30, 2015 at 11:13 AM
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    wheelers says this: "
    Provides approx 2.5″-3″ lift on a 2010+ 4Runner with a Bull Bar Bumper and winch."

    Wow! with bumper AND Winch. without? hahahaha
     
  19. Jun 30, 2015 at 7:44 PM
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    Yeah they are made for 4runners but fit our trucks just fine. They have the same spring rate as the OME 885s, they are just slightly taller coils. 886s are the OME springs for tacos with a bumper and winch. Regardless, I'm almost positive the spring rate is lower on the 887s than the Eibachs. I think Eibachs are 620# and the OMEs are 590#
     
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    I run BFG All-Terrain T/A KO2 285/70/17 with 3 inch lift and Pro Comp UCA's. Used Spidertrax 1.25 inch spacers to run stock TRD Sport aluminum rims. Minimal trimming. No rubbing trimming and plenty of UCA clearance.
     
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