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AutoMagically Locking Doors

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by USMCwife, Jun 24, 2015.

  1. Jul 3, 2015 at 11:55 PM
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    archerm3

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    So I don't get it...are people on here recommending shooting and killing someone that is road raging you? Doesn't seem like a very smart thing to do. Attitudes like this is why I think road rage is on the increase. " I gots a gun so I can be an azzhole to strangers..."

    Unless people are suggesting that the OP needs to brandish a weapon to settle traffic disputes? Seems like a good way to escalate a verbal confrontation into a deadly one.

    OP stick to the advice of knowing your surroundings and figuring out a way to lock your doors.
     
  2. Jul 4, 2015 at 12:12 AM
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    No I think you're missing the bigger picture. Most of the people are advocating that the OP be aware of her surroundings (situational awareness) and the option for her to have a means of defending herself. If it happens to be a firearm, the so be it. There is nothing wrong with an American citizen who is qualified under the eyes of the law to own a firearm for all legal purposes, including defending oneself against crimes of violence, such as road rage. Anyone who has the mentality of being an asshole just because they have a gun should not being carrying a firearm, however, being an asshole isn't illegal. Those who actually train with their firearms don't usually possess this mentality.
     
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  3. Jul 4, 2015 at 12:23 AM
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    see red above

    Recommending someone who freezes up in tense situations to carry a firearm is not a good idea methinks. There is a whole lot of things to consider once you start packing such as how to carry it, maintaining a supreme level of situational awareness, knowing your states defense laws intimately so that you may instantaneously apply them to a deadly situation where if you make a mistake you end up in jail yourself or end up killing someone over spilt milk (so to say). People that are ready to start packing will know it when they want to.

    My wife and I had a young woman brandish a pistol at us over road rage...she spent time in jail. She thought it was her duty to teach me that she had the right of way at all times by scaring us with a gun....

    I had a gun too..with me. I just backed off and called the fuzz with her license plate.


    Dont forget your vehicle can be a weapon too.

    No I got the bigger picture and I said as much. Stick to situational awareness.
     
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  4. Jul 4, 2015 at 12:30 AM
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    Road rage debatable as a violent crime? I see it first hand. Theres no debate. As far as you not believing that those who actually train don't usually possess the trait of being an asshole because they could just because they own a firearm, is not universally true, hence the word usually. Are you basing your judgment on experience of people you know that carry firearms and act like assholes, or are you just floating that? Do you have any type of study or evidence, not conjecture to support it?
     
  5. Jul 4, 2015 at 2:37 AM
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    My conjecture is the same as your conjecture. Debatable as in how your state defines road rage and how charges are filed.
    And IME most people who are assholes also own/carry guns. People who think they are badass act like assholes. What badass doesn't want a weapon to feel more badass. So usually doesn't apply. You see them all the time. Conversations at the gun store. At the gun range. At shooting competitions. At restaurants. At parties. At bars. Etc. Lots of braggerts talking shit about what they think they will do in situations and then observe their behavior in public. Maybe you're surrounded by level headed people. Lord knows since I left the military I haven't been.

    But here's an interesting article.
    http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/20...e-20100916_1_road-rage-florida-law-mike-dutko

    Notice the tacoma in the story..lol.


    There used to be a time when if two guys had a disagreement over something you'd throw a few blows and things would be done. Nowadays everyone thinks people have to get killed if someone gets yelled at, disrespected, cut in line, scared, etc.
     
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  6. Jul 4, 2015 at 2:45 AM
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    I find it disappointing for you that in your experience most people you know who are assholes own/carry weapons. In my experience, they are warriors, police officers, veterans (both those who've been in combat and those who haven't), competitive shooters, and enthusiasts. Many whom I've trusted with my life, and vice versa. Very, very few do I ever consider being an asshole. I think at this point we can just agree to disagree.
     
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  7. Jul 4, 2015 at 5:12 AM
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    Hi Mr Notoneiota, this is exactly what happened to me. I drove our Tacoma always thinking the doors were locked and it took this angry man incident for me to realize they weren't. Thank you checking. Our car is a 2014 too. The dealer guy has said he'd look into it but didn't think the cars computer allowed them to make the doors lock :rolleyes:.
     
  8. Jul 4, 2015 at 5:40 AM
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    Hi mr archerm3, thank you for you suggestions. I sometime only hear what I want to hear but what I heard is to do some things differently. I am and I think it's a good thing. It really does make me feel better prepared for "life". I think I caused the initial problem because I was in my own little world singing to "my music" and didn't see this guy who I guess was in a hurry. What I'm trying to do differently is watch more and think about what is going on around me. I always checked my mirrors for how close people were but I don't think I ever even thought about them. I know this wasn't the case but now I try to think "maybe the guy's wife was in an accident and he's just trying to get to her". That's why he's climbing up my butt and trying to pass across a double yellow line. I look at what they're doing now and if they seem like they're in a hurry I just get out of their way.

    Anyway, all the guys here have said is watch what's going on around me, don't box myself in, think ahead, and have a plan. I think I froze cause I felt helpless and I was scared. I didn't have a plan and so I didn't even have the sense to blast the horn.

    My original thought was this nut head could have opened the door and grabbed me and beat me which is what he said he was going to do (with an interesting use of some very nasty 4 letter type words). If there ever were a next time, I WILL have my Mace in my hand and not hanging on my keychain. I may accidently shoot myself but I don't think he'd want to be around when that stuff goes off. I went in my backyard and tried pulling the trigger on my Mace gun. That stuff is NASTY!

    Anyway, I know you, like the others are just trying to help. I appreciate the ideas. You guys make me think. Sometimes I don't do that enough :).
     
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  9. Jul 4, 2015 at 5:53 AM
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    Thank you mr docloco. One thing. This might have been road rage right up to the point where he got out of his car, came running at me, and screamed and cursed, and banged on my windows, and kicked my car ( I hope he broke his foot) AND said using 4 letter words that he was going to rape me and kill me. I wasn't paying attention but I didn't deserve that. There were people around and they did nothing. I need to have the option of defending myself and I love you for pointing that out to me. A gun may not be right for me but I'm not stuggling to keep our life together for my husband to come home and me not be there.
     
  10. Jul 4, 2015 at 5:56 AM
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    Sorry, I think I got my panties in a bunch...
     
  11. Jul 4, 2015 at 5:57 AM
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    You're very welcome. Guns are definitely not for everyone. They each have to decide that for themselves. It boils down to mindset. Having options to defend yourself is always a good thing. The more options, the better off. Whatever you choose, it is your decision. I just taught a 59 year woman co-worker of my wife how to safely use use guns. Many of her fears and misconceptions were relieved.
     
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  12. Jul 4, 2015 at 7:38 PM
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    911 at bare minimum while you are looking at his license plate. As soon as the operator comes on recite the plate number twice then tell the operator what is going on.
     
  13. Jul 4, 2015 at 8:16 PM
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    Good advise here. Notify the police and try to leave.

    My two encounters...

    I must have merged or pulled in front of a guy driving an El Camino on a three lane divided highway. He was behind me and yelling and flipping me off. We ended up at a traffic light next to one another. I roll down the passenger window, tell him I'm sorry, it was unintentional. Didn't calm him down. Light changes, he starts serving toward my truck making me move over. He's intent on yelling, flipping me off and swerving toward me he doesn't notice his lane is closed off with concrete barriers due to construction. I saw what was about to happen and start pointing toward the barriers. Maybe he thinks I'm pointing to a place so we could both pull over but he finally looks to where I'm pointing. The last thing I see in my rear view mirror is him coming to a screeching halt before the barriers. I'd like to think he thought about the close call, but he probably just couldn't catch up and find me.

    One day at a drive through at McD's I thought a guy in his tinted window truck was motioning me to go in front of him. I went, he started yelling at me. I yelled I was sorry. Didn't help. When I got up to the window I told the cashier I wanted to pay for the guys meal behind me because of a misunderstanding. As I pulled away he is arguing with the cashier, apparently insulted by my gesture. I tried.
     
  14. Jul 6, 2015 at 6:59 AM
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    Thank you for caring Mr basetaco. You are a good Husband and Daddy to your wife and girls :). I do have a USMC sticker and a USMC Camp Lejune license plate thingie and I am a lot more aware of what's going on around me when I am driving. Thinking that my car was my own little clean, comfortable, warm or cool, safe "place" was a mistake I'm not going to make again.
     
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  15. Jul 6, 2015 at 2:31 PM
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    A firearm is just another tool to add to a tool set IF the person is suitable to use that tool. A firearms is absolutely not for everyone. Right now I would not trust my wife to use a firearm to defend herself because she hasn't had proper training or the desire to learn how to operate a firearm. I shoot competitively, but honestly I don't know if I could use my firearms in a life threatening situation because I haven't trained or taken courses on that yet. Sure I know how to operate a firearm, sure I know how to engage targets on the move and from cover, but add the element of danger and a crazy person trying to attack changes everything. That being said - others have nailed it - situation awareness is the key to everything. My last comment, since your husband is in the marines (thank him for his service for me), have him or his buddies help you. I'm sure they would be glad to help.

    Back to your OP, I wished my '15 tacoma had this, but if it doesn't I will have to work around it. I knew going into it that the tacoma had less features than my rav4 limited so I have to work with what I have.

    Listen to all the great points here. They could work for anybody - doesn't matter sex or age
     
  16. Jul 6, 2015 at 2:44 PM
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    My Marine has taken me and my Daddy shooting. We actually have a little Glock? gun and a big AR something gun. I am clearly not capable of using them for anything other than scaring myself to death :(. At least not now.
     
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    Just read through this entire thread, and everyone has excellent ideas on situational awareness and having a plan.

    One night my friends wife (tiny, 5' 100lb woman) was driving him and I around, and we swung by the store for some beer. She's sitting in the parking lot waiting for us. The back door opens and someone gets in, and she thinks nothing of it, assuming it's one of us. Apparently some random, confused man decided to just have a seat in there (peacefully, I might add). She was ballsy enough to stand her ground and scream "GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY CAR!" at this guy. She was prepared, if it came to it, to put her car in drive and mash the pedal. Luckily some GIANT rednecks came by and saved the day. They opened the door and yanked the guy out and held him down until police arrived.

    All I'm trying to say is that even unprovoked, there are crazy people out there who can put you in harms way. IT's always good to have some sort of plan and NEVER let yourself become a victim. Even if it involves voluntarily smashing your car into something to get everyone's attention.
     
  18. Jul 6, 2015 at 6:02 PM
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    OP, a simple solution is to remember to push the electronic lock button on the driver side door when you get in the truck. That locks all the doors. When you exit the truck you only need to open the driver door and only that door will be unlocked. No one will be able to enter the truck thru the other doors, but you still need to remember to lock the driver door each time you get in.

    I thank your husband for his service and you for your sacrifice while he is serving.
     
  19. Dec 30, 2015 at 4:39 PM
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    Tried using Techstream on my 2007 with the Gulf States Alarm today. Doesn't list security as an option to adjust the locking/unlocking of doors. Actually looks like it won't let me adjust anything on the Tacoma. It worked great on my 2005 Lexus, let me adjust all types of settings. Guess my ECM on the Tacoma isn't a "smart" one. All of the cars in my household (Lexus, Scion, Honda) have auto locking and unlocking of doors (Hell, the aftermarket alarm on my Fiero locked/unlocked the doors and that was a cheap alarm). I have gotten so used to that feature, that it is really hard to remember to lock the doors.
     

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