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Arb Bull Bar. What are all the parts that should be included?

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by veg hed, Aug 13, 2015.

  1. Aug 13, 2015 at 8:34 AM
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    I found a used Arb Bull Bar local that I'm going to look at today. The guy claims that it is model # 3423020, which would fit my 2004 Tacoma. But I have a few questions first.

    What are all the parts that should be included to make sure everything is there for the install?

    Is the model # stamped somewhere on the bumper?

    What kind of Winch should I get if I buy it?

    How much should I expect to pay? I know a new one is in the $870 range and I'm thinking the guy might be a little high on his price.

    Thanks
     
  2. Aug 13, 2015 at 6:25 PM
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    Here are the fitting instructions with a parts list:
    http://store.arbusa.com/Assets/PDF/3423020i.pdf

    Cut retail price in half and you'll get something close to what I think is reasonable. I would not pay more than $500 for a used one, but $400-450 sounds much more reasonable. It really depends on the prior use and condition though, just like everything else.
     
  3. Aug 13, 2015 at 10:42 PM
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    I agree. It was in pretty decent shape so I picked it up for $400.

    I was looking at the parts list that came with it and it says something about a splash plate? And also, do the older ones NOT have a winch plate? Just not sure how I'm going to mount a winch on this thing.
     
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    The splash plate mounts on the bottom of the bumper, between the skid plate and the front of the bumper. I think its to cover up the winch and keep it from the elements. I never put mine on.

    It would be pretty obvious if it doesn't have provisions for a winch. As long as it has the recess for the fairlead you should be good to go.

    Does it look like this from the front:
    [​IMG]
     
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    $400 is good.

    I'm not sure what you mean by 'winch plate' though. Maybe it's the splash guard/thin skid plate that bolts to the bull bar and factory skid mount locations (6 bolts total, 3 on each side). It's not necessary but will keep mud/snow/road crud out of that area and most importantly away from a winch if you so choose to mount one in the bumper.

    The winch mounts to the bumper via the 4 holes in the front of the bumper (The fairlead also mounts to the bottom 2 holes with the same bolts that hold the winch on and effectively form 'sandwich' around the bumper). This mounting design 90 degrees off of a traditional mount to a flat, horizontal surface (on something like a jeep) and also the reason why you'd have to clock the winch accordingly if the freespool lever didn't line up with the access hole on the driver side. It may seem complicated in words but the instructions I linked you to cover it adequately.

    Here is a photo of the Superwinch I threw into my truck last month.
     
  7. Aug 14, 2015 at 9:01 PM
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    Yup, my bumper looks just like that.

    And here's a pic of the back.

    I'm guessing the splash plate is missing.

    Thanks for the explanation on how the winch mounts to the bumper. I guess I just had a hard time picturing it.
     
  8. Aug 15, 2015 at 6:29 AM
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    No problem. I've had an ARB bumper on my Tacomas for over 6 years now and I didn't fully understand how a winch mounted in there until only a few months ago.
     
  9. Aug 15, 2015 at 7:05 AM
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    Your little rubber USA compliant bumper dealy bobs are on upside-down and opposite sides...
     
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  10. Aug 15, 2015 at 9:15 AM
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  11. Aug 15, 2015 at 10:44 AM
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    Got it.

    Can anybody recommend some better flood lights?
     
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    No the ones on your bumper are correct. Travis.diller was talking about the other photo that was put up. Yours look like mine, which are the correct orientation.

    As for lights, I have IPF 968s, which are the cheaper version of the IPF 900XS lights. They are more spot than flood beams but they work nicely for the money (they are on Amazon for ~$160). Mine came with the black plastic guards, 55W and 100W bulbs, and a clear lens but you can get them with an amber lens and no guard. Been on the truck for 6 years with no problems.

    Otherwise there are plenty of other options. A common one is the Hella 500, which is cheap and readily available. If you want to get spendy, LightForce are amazing. Seemed like everybody in AUS had those on their trucks and utes.
     
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    Thanks, but that's not my truck, I just pulled the picture off google images because it showed the recessed area for the fairlead mounting.

    Great bang for your buck performance is converting some Hella 500ff or 700ff lights to 55w HIDs. The whole conversion (Hella housings, HID ballasts/bulbs and misc. supplies) can be done for around $125-$150 and will put out an amazing amount of light. I have two currently mounted on my ARB and they are so bright you turn the main headlights off without an appreciable loss of light output. The downside is that they are illegal on-road.

    Here is a how-to thread with some pictures of light output: https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/hella-700ff-hid-conversion.60590/
     
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  14. Aug 20, 2015 at 6:11 PM
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    Thanks for the tip. I was hoping there was some kind of light that was low profile and LED.
     

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