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New tires or rear locker?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Pigpen, Aug 18, 2015.

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If you were me, which would you get before winter?

  1. Tires - plan for gears next year

    13 vote(s)
    76.5%

  2. Rear locker

    3 vote(s)
    17.6%

  3. Front locker - 'cause snow wheeling!

    1 vote(s)
    5.9%
  1. Aug 18, 2015 at 4:19 PM
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    Pigpen

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    Pigpen [OP] My truck is never clean

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    I haven't started a thread in a bit, and I'm bored.

    I'm pretty close to buying new studded and siped Toyo M55 255/85/16 tires. They're about the same price as doing a 3rd from ECGS with a locker.

    What would you do?

    Background:

    My old snow tires (265/75/16) are in good enough condition for another winter. I'm just really enjoying my current look and ride with my (worn) 255 M55s and want some for winter too.

    I already installed the ARB compressor (
    $338 CKMA12 On-Board Air Compressor High Performance 12 Volt for Air Locker Differentials and Tire Inflation
    CKMA12), so installing a third would give me a locker with minimal effort and cost - relatively speaking.

    I fully intend to lock front and rear. My only real hang up is that if I decide to do gears I have to do both at the same time - I use 4x4 regularly troughout the year.

    If I don't do gears, a crawl box will be in my future. It would be a win-win. I'd have the mpgs of stock with crawl power at the stroke of a lever. It would be a couple years, so...

    What would you do?
     
    Pigpen, Aug 18, 2015
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  2. Aug 18, 2015 at 4:38 PM
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    If I was you and lived where you do, I wouldn't be messing around with my truck, I would be getting my stuff ready for muzzle loading Elk season.
     
    spitdog, Aug 18, 2015
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  3. Aug 18, 2015 at 6:46 PM
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    Nah... we don't have a muzzle loader season.

    I shoot my bow almost every day, though and I'm picking my rifle up from the gunsmith tomorrow - doing a little tweaking on an already awesome setup. Six weeks of archery, followed by six weeks of rifle. Don't forget a month of bear hunting in the spring!

    The ski hill opens a week or so after rifle closes, and it closes about a week before spring bear opens. I snowboard over 70 days per year and I hunt over 40 days per year, including a couple week long trips each year. I'm ready for all of it (already got my bear, so there's a tag I can't fill this fall...)

    I'll probably get the tires, but I'm interested to hear what others have to say. The locker is really tempting.

    C'mon folks, I know you lurkers have an opinion! Have some fun with it!!
     
    Pigpen, Aug 18, 2015
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  4. Aug 18, 2015 at 6:49 PM
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    locker front or rear wont do shit to stop u
     
    Justus, Aug 18, 2015
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  5. Aug 18, 2015 at 6:53 PM
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    Stopping isn't the only issue I encounter. This was 13 miles back and the snow was 3 feet deep :D That guy isn't me, his jeep got stuck over a mile before this.




     
    Pigpen, Aug 18, 2015
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  6. Aug 18, 2015 at 7:07 PM
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    Judging by the snow pack you're sunk into I'd probably say rubber is more important than lockers. A good set of winter tires is about the best thing you can do in winter in my limited experience. ;)
     
    Kyitty, Aug 18, 2015
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  7. Aug 18, 2015 at 9:11 PM
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    That was also before OBA, now I ain't skeered to drop those PSIs... :thumbsup:
     
    Pigpen, Aug 18, 2015
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  8. Aug 18, 2015 at 9:22 PM
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    Front and rear locker won't help you stop and you and all of us TW members responding to this thread know that.Tempting but i'm voting on TIRES for ya OP!
     
    ODNAREM, Aug 18, 2015
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  9. Aug 18, 2015 at 9:28 PM
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    get a locker.

    so youll be forced to buy tires later anyways.

    its like when mom made you eat your veggies first and the lasagna last, so shed be sure youd eat everything on your plate, regardless if you were full or not.
     
    ramonortiz55, Aug 18, 2015
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  10. Aug 18, 2015 at 9:28 PM
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    I don't know if it would have made much difference to be more detailed in the original post, but...

    My "old" tires are studded Dean Wintercat SST with about 80% tread. Awesome tires and in great condition.

    @ramonortiz55 Vote man, vote! Ha ha, Thanks! I appreciate your logic.
     
    Last edited: Aug 18, 2015
    Pigpen, Aug 18, 2015
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  11. Aug 18, 2015 at 9:31 PM
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    Tires first for sure! But I got stuck last year (crappy tires tilted road) And locking the diff really helps when its super slick..
     
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  12. Aug 18, 2015 at 9:37 PM
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    I think you answered your own question! Haha...

    Personally, I'd do the locker. Front or rear or both.
     
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  13. Aug 18, 2015 at 10:01 PM
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    Trade for A-TRAC :anonymous: or tires
     
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  14. Aug 18, 2015 at 11:12 PM
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    Order of importance...tires, perfect mechanical condition, sliders, then everything else.
     
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  15. Aug 19, 2015 at 5:27 AM
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    The slider project is in the works already. Not a factor. When I do the front locker, I'll replace the LCA bolts and bushings. That will be as close as it gets to "perfect" mechanical condition.
     
    Pigpen, Aug 19, 2015
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