Alternatives to Gen 3 Tacoma?

With the exception of a few (probably paid) trolls, the new taco is not disliked. In fact, many members have already purchased theirs.

 

If this board required a membership to view and was not google searchable, I would have a feeling many of the BlueT type retards would disappear and the GM marketing campaign would end. The problem is, anybody that searches for gen3 tacoma stuff gets a slew of tw threads. Its a cheaper way to advertise against tacoma. I assure you, q4 numbers for tacoma will be the highest ever on record.

 

I'm sure a lot of you knuckleheads think this is some kind of conspiracy theory. Let me spell it out for you, I am a software engineer and one of my first jobs was supporting a team of guerilla marketers (writing algorithms to automate account creation and content duping). It was VERY common 5 years ago. Today, its totally mainstream. Every big corporation has social media marketing and faux "grass roots" movements on message boards, subreddits, and millions and millions of fake accounts. It's just way the fuck cheaper to employ one or two developers and a dozen low paid content writers than it is to run a 20 million dollar campaign annnnnnnnnnnd its way more effective. I guarantee you, some of the posters here are paid to post by GM.

 

TURD GEN

 

They could have hired someone more intelligent and convincing than a fucking neanderthal

 

Now that the diesel Colorado/Canyon exists there is no reason to buy any other vehicle. It has no downsides. Anyone that tells you otherwise has stupid wrong opinions or works for Toyota or both.

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For a manual midsize pickup truck I guess the only (rather lousy) alternative is Frontier.

 

lol

When I worked in this field, I was a software engineer so I only wrote code, but I still overhead a lot of the conversations with the content writers. Basically they are told to mimic the locale. Keep in mind who the content writers are: millennials that spent $100,000 on a BA in some bullshit literary arts nonsense thinking that they'd be famous authors by 22. Instead, they make $12/hour to repeat slight variations of the same bullshit on 250 different social media accounts. In other words, they think they are better than truck owners and are kind of bitter, so I'm not surprised their impression of a truck buyer is blueT.

 

FYI, those are the "HIGH PAID" content writers. Most of the content writers are actually Indian (dot not feather). That's falling out of favor because they are not very good at blending in culturally.

 

Proof?

 

This whole thread sounds like a big Toyota circle jerk.

So someone expresses disappointment in the 3rd gen, thinking that after 10 years Toyota could have done more (e.g. it's only now providing basic options that the Frontier's had for years) and have ethical concerns with the chief engineer (Mike Sweers) lying to potential customers by saying the only thing that remained the same between the 2nd gen to 3rd gen is the seat belt buckle and now we are paid trolls for other companies?

Some people on here sound like a 16 year old Apple fanboy who gets a hard on every time a new iPhone comes out.

Any company who wants my money has to earn it. That's why I'll never buy the GM twins because of GM's bullshit with their faulty ignition switches. How they tried to cover up multiple deaths because trying to cover it up was cheaper than to recall and improve a 50 cent part. They do not deserve my business if they do do not give a shit about the safety of their customers in situations like this.

For the poster who says there are paid marketing shills on forums like this...yup...that's been known for years. I'm sure this forum has GM, Nissan and Toyota (pumping up their product) shills on it. It goes all ways and no company us above this behavior. It's a bullshit game the companies play

I can only speak for myself but this truck is certainly not that great. Better than the 2nd Gen ...yes...but after 10 years it would not be that hard to do considering how much the technology has improved. Not just minor things like heated seats, sun roofs etc. but major things like engine and transmissions as it relates to fuel economy.

I'm happy with my 2nd gen and recognize the 3rd gen is a better truck but not good enough for me to throw down 35 -40k to replace it.

 

So......

Not sure I would buy one but....

http://www.autoblog.com/2015/08/26/ford-ranger-bronco-production-michigan-report/

 

What I want from a 3rd gen tacoma is what I wanted from a 2nd gen tacoma. It's also what I wanted from a late 80's toyota pickup and a 70's FJ40. I want exceptionally stable technology that will ensure two things: reliability and resale value. What I don't care about is the specs race. Toyota could have gotten more hp out of that engine than the colorado. They already do in other applications. Toyoto could have gotten more mpg with that ground dragging skirt that's on the colorado. Toyota could have done of a lot of things to win the specs race. I'm not against technology, but I've made a choice, as have millions of toyota lovers across the world, sacrifice toys for reliability and resale value.

Funny you mention Apple. Its the same thing. I only buy Apple laptops and phones. Are they better? Define better. Can I get faster clock speed, more ram, etc for cheaper somewhere else? Of course. Is there anything that compares to Apple in build quality? No. Is there another manufacturer that has a following that allows me to sell their products 2-3 years later for 80% of the purchase price? No. My work bought me a $3200 non-mac laptop. In a lot of ways, its amazing. It has a better GPU than most high end gaming desktops. I can push three 4K monitors. It has the fastest laptop cpu on the market. But the keyboard is shit. The trackpad is either WAY too sensitive or unresponsive. It runs about 900000 degrees. Nothing is smooth. It's like an 80's mustang with a 1200hp souped up engine. Can it run a sub 10 second quarter mile? Yes. Is it still a piece of shit for everything else? Yes. While I appreciate the gift and have fun doing certain things with it, I wouldn't spend my money on it. For doing actual work, I want a stable version of yesterdays technology, assembled meticulously with high attention to detail, and I want it cheap. Both Apple and Tacomas have BY FAR the cheapest cost of ownership. This $3200 laptop probably won't work in 2 years, but if it does, I won't be able to sell it for $100. I have sold macbook pros for 80% of their purchase price years later multiple times. Even more for phones. I don't care if a Tacoma is 35K if I can drive the shit out of it for 5 years and sell it for 27K. Its far cheaper. But...like a Apple, you have to be picky about when you buy a model. They will not drop the price on a model until the new model is out and even then, only by a hair. You need to buy when the new model comes out and it will be appropriately priced. If you wait until the end of the life cycle, you're still going to do alright, but you aren't maximizing.

 

Its a rebadged Nissan Frontier. A effort to gain more sales in North America.

And Ford too. How many F150 posts are there?

 

People always act completely unbelieving when I say I buy Apple because its cheaper. Even when I show them that when a new model comes out, the specs and price are pretty much equivalent to every other brand. It's only 1 year later when every other brand has increased the goodies, and apple hasn't, but is charging the same amount does the price appear oddly expensive. Even when I show them actual prices people pay for used apple products. Even when I show them the arithmetic. Don't get me wrong, I hate apple "culture" as much as the next guy, but it's a value proposition to me. I always have a new macbook pro and in the long run, costs me very little money.

 

Why does it have to be new? A well cared for 1st or 2nd gen would be 1/2 or less. Invest the balance or spend it on a true commuter appliance.

 

Ridgeline will sell well. I see more of them around here than Chevy Colorados or Nissan Frontiers. Smooth ride with fulltime AWD four passengers in comfort, that's appealing to a lot of people and you get a truck bed so you can throw the weekend projects into it and hose it out.

 

I'm not anti-ford, but I can't imagine buying an F150 instead of a tacoma. It's like saying you're in the market for an axe and someone says you should buy a shovel. There just isn't any real overlap of use.

 

I would never buy a 1/2 ton. Tacoma or a big deezul. Why go for something in the middle? Trucks are either for light utility, offroading, or towing. Tacoma mops the floor with everyone for light utility and offroading and if you actually tow, you're going to be very disappointed with an F150. I know people say, "well I just want to be able to tow a bit more on the rare chance I have to." Ok. On those rare chances, rent a big deeezul for a couple hundred bucks. You'll have more capacity and it'll be cheaper.

 

For light utility (home depot, costco, yard clippings, etc), the ridgeline is solid value proposition for the right consumer.