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reverse cam when turn-signals engaged

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Bigskybob, Sep 3, 2015.

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Does use of Tailgate Camera outside of Reverse Driving constitute a safety hazard?

  1. No - Good idea for better visibility and now I'm thinking about doing it too.

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  2. Yes - Safety hazard. Stay off of my roads!!

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  1. Sep 3, 2015 at 11:16 AM
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    Bigskybob

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    I'm working with the Entune plus as my camera's screen. Is there a way I could jump something in the fuses that would make the screen show the image from tailgate camera when I engage my turn signals or perhaps a separate switch/toggle. I'd love to see better than my mirrors when changing lanes, etc --- more difficult with a topper and this would help me. Anyone try this or get it to work?
     
  2. Sep 3, 2015 at 11:18 AM
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  3. Sep 3, 2015 at 12:22 PM
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    That is a really bad idea and you will crash. Just get some 3 inch spot mirrors and stick them on your mirrors.
     
  4. Sep 3, 2015 at 12:32 PM
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    Agreed. Also, your backup camera can only see what's already behind you. It's not going to help if you are changing lanes.
     
  5. Sep 3, 2015 at 1:04 PM
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    LEARN TO DRIVE AND DONT TRY TO USE A CRUTCH WHEN LIVES ARE AT STAKE

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    I have a topper and have zero issues seeing with my side mirrors and little neck movement.
     
  6. Sep 3, 2015 at 1:40 PM
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    I think every car on the road should have spot/convex mirror for lane changing. With all the BS they put in cars today it still amazes me that most cars/trucks don't have them as standard equipment.
     
  7. Sep 3, 2015 at 4:38 PM
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    Didn't expect quite that reaction from Revelations and random IP address. Whoa there.

    I'd like them as my "switch" to enable it. Sure wouldn't HURT anything having MORE information about what's behind you. The wide angle view is great to see things off in the blind spot.

    Sure... with enough head bobbing and stuff, I could just drive like normal and see around my fully packed topper for camping. I'm asking for some wiring assistance to make it happen. Figured there's be a lot more people either already done it, or excited about the prospect. This doesn't replace common sense and standard driving, but it sure-as-heck can't hurt.

    Many cars built today have assistance in this area (Blind spot indicators when turn signals on). Why not a camera that's already installed?
     
  8. Sep 3, 2015 at 5:00 PM
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    The new civics have a similar feature depending on the model you get. If you hit your right turn signal, the display activates a camera that shows you whats going on in that general area...The only difference is that this camera is mounted under the passenger side door mirror. I rode in a civic with this feature and while it is helpful and convenient, i wouldn't rely on it 100%. I'm not even sure I'd use it at all because I'm so used to my normal driving habits, however, I guess you cant go wrong with additional safety measures if used properly. Sorry I don't have much info to provide in regards to wiring, but just be careful and use safe driving technique regardless. Good luck.
     
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  9. Sep 3, 2015 at 6:57 PM
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    The mirrors on the Tacoma's are really good, especially with 3inch spot mirrors on them. Topper or not has nothing to do with anything. If your turning your neck to look out the back window you will eventually rear end someone. I don't mean to come across harsh but you really need to learn how to use and trust your mirrors. I can take my eyes off the road to check my mirror in less than a second with spot mirrors, without them you have a blind spot like all vehicles do. The camera thing is just silly, its one more thing to keep your eyes off the road. The new blind spot indicators they put in some new cars are also a bad idea because now your trusting a gadget to let you know if the lane is clear or not. Mirrors do not ever fail, ever. Just go get two 3 inch spot mirrors for all of 6 dollars and give it a try, they just stick on.
     
  10. Sep 4, 2015 at 3:10 AM
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    Looks like tapping into the turn signals... what are the diagrams representing? Is the combination SW or the Relay located in the fusebox? This looks like an additional fuse on another line-tap. I'll take a peek in the AM in the fusebox and put this all together.

    Thanks
     
  11. Sep 4, 2015 at 5:44 AM
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    What reaction? I was merely stating the obvious. Using a camera mounted that's pointing behind you will only allow you to see what's behind you and not what's beside you. Blind spot indicators have sensors mounted on the sides. If you really want it to be effective, add two cameras to each side on your topper. Connect each camera to the left or right turn signal and have them activate depending on which side is on. That would be more useful than using your backup camera.
     
  12. Sep 4, 2015 at 6:17 AM
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    It looks like BigSkyBob is going to do what he's going to do, good luck and happy crashing.
     
  13. Sep 4, 2015 at 8:03 AM
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    I guess mostly the knee-jerk reaction from Mavrick was what was unexpected along with your immediate "I totally agree". Wasn't asking about the merits of why to do this...I've already decided it's justified for safety. I find a lot of drivers hanging out in the blind spot that extends far past the bumper. Lane splitting motorcycles alone would justify this.

    What a bad thing to wish someone crashes just to prove your point of view. Take a hike if you're not going to contribute.

    Just looking for wiring help from a forum of Tacoma experts...not for driving help from distant back-seat drivers.
     
  14. Sep 4, 2015 at 8:45 AM
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    Unfortunately, when you post something online, you'll always have people inputting their opinion, even if you don't want it. C'est la vie.
     
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    No knee jerk reaction and I never wished that you will crash, just predicting your future. I'm only trying to help you but your too closed minded to other suggestions and are dead set on your idea even though I and others have suggested that the camera does not view that area and wont work at all. Its clear your not the type of person that is willing to listen to reason.

    Keep in mind though, I, and many others, are on the road with you and your idea is putting all of us at risk. That's why I persisted to convince you of a better solution to your problem. What your doing is irresponsible and dangerous and will only lead to a dangerous situation. Its crap like this that raises our insurance rates and contributes to traffic congestion, thank for nothing. :crazy: Like the other guy said, LEARN HOW TO DRIVE.
     
  16. Sep 4, 2015 at 12:11 PM
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    Thanks Mavrick--- upon further review, your first reply was incredibly thought out and helpful and all your sentiments have been positively given and received.

    Allow me to show you what I mean: Here's a pic I just took (don't FREAK OUT--- I was parked on a street and not driving) showing my view from driver's seat to mirror and what that exactly shows when reverse engaged. See the giant minivan in the blind spot? Yes, it's behind me... but it's still in my blind spot.

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    I do know how to drive...I've been doing it for a long time safely. I'm looking to add some further information about the cars around me and asshats who sit in blind-spots or bicyclists who'll blow right through a stop sign ahead, passing cars as you're about to make a turn. I'm sorry... I just don't see how adding this in (and not removing my existing mirrors and fucking brain) would cause such a problem.

    This isn't a crutch--- this function is being added to new cars in a variety of ways, but with a wider field of view. I'd like to use the existing technology and bits/pieces in my fairly expensive vehicle to its fullest potential. I actually had a very small gopro mounted on my passenger rear fender for a while, but the interface w/ the ipad/iphone app was horrendous and I want a dedicated option.
     
  17. Sep 4, 2015 at 12:17 PM
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    Just gauging by that last pic, and I could be wrong, but it looks like you would benefit from adjusting your mirrors to the "contemporary" style to better eliminate any blindspots. As it is it looks like from your driver seat your side mirrors are pointed directly back which is not proper in my opinion. I drive with a topper through Atlanta traffic all the time and with my mirrors properly adjusted I have zero issues and never even had a close call. Again that's just what I see in the pic so if my observation is wrong just ignore me.
     
  18. Sep 4, 2015 at 12:30 PM
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    Its clear you don't know where your blind spot is. If that van pulled up into your blind spot it would not show up in the camera or in your side view mirror. You might see a very small section of it but not enough to to be 100% confident the lane is clear. Your blind spot is from the back of the front windows to the rear of the truck. Based on your pictures you should be able to see that van with your regular mirrors, if not then you don't have them adjusted correctly.

    Tell me this, what do have against spot mirrors and have you ever used them?
     
  19. Sep 4, 2015 at 12:31 PM
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    A positive contribution!! Thanks!! A little further out would show that van a little more. I'll try squeezing them further out a bit, but need to see directly behind me for bikes, etc.

    When I added the Snugtop Rebel, my rearview got much much narrower. I'd like a way to always have it on, but as it's the Entune, I still want use of that also. This is really more for seeing things behind me, I guess, than beside of me. I can and do turn my head when I drive. I feel that when turning, changing lanes, merging, passing, about to turn at an intersection, I'm often checking my rear-view mirror. Probably a bit habitual from the years of driving in the MT snow and trying to avoid people running into you. Ideally, I'd swap the mirror-based one into my truck and use that one as an always on rear-camera.

    Looking to enable the REAR camera and when I'm turning... that's often when I want that additional information. Jeez.

    on a serious note, thank you for the tip JdevTac
     
  20. Sep 4, 2015 at 12:31 PM
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    You cant rely on your main mirror to eliminate a blind spot.
     

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