Mid Travel BS 2.0

Its already better

 

What is the difference between Mid and Long travel?

 

Sub'd for the entertainment value

 

So does +2 fit in MT or LT ? I feel like a red headed step child torn between going to live with mommy or daddy ?

I think it would be a good idea to link MT kits and parts in that OP too to knock down the " i want to do this what parts do I get and where do I find them " questions...

 

didn't even notice the other thread had vanished.....bummer

I would suggest some links to common valving questions as well.

 

my only complaint about the +2 kit being "mid travel" is then what would you classify someone like me who has icon coilovers, TC UCAs and gusseted spindles with straps. Just lifted? Thats where the grey area begins.

 

what is the gospel on this ?

IE:

stock = 7 ish

Mid w/ BJ's = 8 ish

Mid w/ uniballs = 9 ish

Mid +2 = 11-12

LT +3.5 = 12+

would be good to make a chart like that in the OP for sure ( whatever the real avg numbers are ) definitely a question you see a lot

 

Am I allowed in on the ground floor? I have nothing to add of value, but I don't like Gabe.

 

Don't make me hug you Jason...don't you do it

 

I like the ideas! I've started to add FAQ to the 2nd post. Please give more suggestions!

So instead of glam pics would you guys just like to rotate the thread pic with a different truck once a month? Or just leave it to whatever image is last posted?

 

id say a good glam photos of examples of what mid travel would be considered. After the information of what it is, links and whatnot.

 

Hiii

 

you sir are mid travel, these are your people welcome. Jberry answered it +2 is an extended arm so therefore LT...I will be ascending in glory to the LT thread now mere mortals....jk jk

 

Bye Felicia!



Don't forget this

 

LOL, nooooo that is why I like to hover safely in the middle, but do you have a tape that start at 2"...it would help...you know... so I don't have to keep shaving around the base so much

 

Limit Straps

Limit straps are used to limit the down travel of your suspension.

Why would you want to limit the down travel of your suspension?

1. To prevent your $1200 + shock from over extending.
2. To prevent your upper or lower ball joint/uniball from over extending/becoming damaged, or damaging your coils springs.
3. To prevent damage to your CV Axle.

Do I need limit straps with my setup?

1. Each setup is different, you will need to measure your suspension articulation and travel to determine if there is a need for limit straps.

How do I check the need for and measure for limit straps?

1. Install your mid travel suspension kit.
2. Jack up the front of the truck in the middle until front wheels come off the ground.
3. Check to see if the shock is over extended. Measure the length of the shock and compare those measurements with the extended length of the shock as defined by the manufacturer. If your measurement is equal to the extended length of your shocks per specs then you probably need limit straps. If your measurement is slightly less than the extended length per specs then you may not need limit straps. Before you decided you don't need limit straps check the items listed under numbers 4,5, and 6.
4. Check to see if the Upper Control Arm (UCA) is contacting the coil of your shock assembly. Look inside the wheel well while the front of the truck is jacked up with the tires off the ground and look to see if the uniball cup or inside edge of the UCA is in contact with the coil spring. It it is you need limit straps. If it is not, how much space is there? How much space are you comfortable having?
5. Check to see if the UCA uniball or ball joint is over extended. If you are using a upper ball joint style UCA chances are the ball joint will be the limiting factor in your suspension. Since the ball joint is a sealed unit (covered with a boot) it is difficult to determine if it is being over extended. Talk to the manufacturer to determine the limits of the ball joint. If you are using a uniball style UCA, check to see if the mis alignment spacers are contacting the outside edge of the uniball cup. Total Chaos recommends at least 1/4" of clearance between the misalignment and the uniball cup. If you have less than 1/4" of clearance you need limit straps.
6. Check the Lower Control Arm (LCA) in the same manner as you did the UCA. Same things apply as in step 5.
7. Check the CV Axles to see if they bind or spin freely. With the truck in the same position as in the other steps, try spinning the wheel. Does the CV axle spin freely or is there binding? If you are unsure you can lower the truck and jack it up from under the LCA and spin the wheel to contrast the feel with spinning the wheel under full droop. If you feel binding or un-smooth operation then you likely need limit straps.
8. If you determine due to inspection of any item from 3-7 that you need limit straps, then you should slowly lower the truck on the jack until none of the issues state above occur. This means that you want to be able to allow the suspension to droop the maximum amount possible without over extending the shock, allowing the UCA to contact the coil spring, over extending the ball joints or uniballs, or causing binding in the CV axle. You can use the jack to lower or raise the front of the vehicle until you find the sweet spot where maximum droop is achieved while the other components are allowed to function properly and to their full potential without damage.
9. Once you determine the sweet spot, determine the places you mount the limit straps. They will need to be attached to the frame, and to the LCA. Most aftermarket LCAs will have a location you can use to attach a limit strap. The top portion will need to be welded to the frame. Once you have determined the two mounting points, measure the distance and use that measurement to determine the length of limit strap you will need.

How can I mount my limit straps/what types of hardware do I need?

1. Limit strap - Length will be determined by how you mount it and the articulation of your suspension. Most mid travel setups are going to use limit straps between 8"-10".
2. Clevis - This will allow for fine tuning of the limit straps and adjustment when they stretch. Make sure to account for the length of the clevis when you decide on the length of your strap.
3. Clevis Mount - This is the portion you will weld to the frame that will hold the clevis in place. It is recommended that this piece be welded to a plate of some kind and then to the frame to prevent tearing the frame under stress.
4. Lower Mounting Tab - If your LCA doesn't have provisions to mount a limit strap you will need to weld a tab to the LCA so you can mount the bottom portion of the limit strap.

Links to Parts and Hardware-

Straps:
http://www.kartek.com/parts/kartek-...rap-with-4130-heat-treated-chromoly-ends.html
http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/trail-gear-rock-assault-6-ply-limit-straps.html

Clevis:
http://www.kartek.com/parts/adjusta...is-12-inch-diameter-shank-holds-3-straps.html
http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/limi...trap-by-trail-gear-300773-kit-300774-kit.html

Frame Mount:
http://www.kartek.com/parts/weld-on...h-shank-suspension-limiting-strap-clevis.html
http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/limi...with-mounting-ears-300015-kit-300017-kit.html


Pictures of Limit Straps-

 

Anyone feel free to add or make recommendations to edit this post ^^^^ once it is deemed complete worthy, @iJonny can add it to the OP.