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Mid Travel BS 2.0

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by 2ndGenJonny, Jan 12, 2016.

  1. Jan 19, 2016 at 7:35 PM
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    So just thinking out loud here, but i know @jberry813 has suggested using a string eye to eye on the leaf pack to determine the main leaf length. Then using this string on the forward mount and shackle to determine where the string goes flat (aka bump).

    Is there any reason, the string cant also be used to determine droop? Just keep it on the forward mount and rotate the shackle till its at maximum droop but not to the point it could invert(aka the maximum possible if the shackle would rotate all the way)? Breaking down the leaf pack to only the main leaf gets rid of any pack restrictions anyways, so this would just save time from breaking down the pack.
     
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  3. Jan 19, 2016 at 8:13 PM
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    you dont want to guess you want to take the time to do it right. Jon, do you remember where I out the post with pics about how to cycle leafs and do the block etc ?
     
  4. Jan 19, 2016 at 8:33 PM
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    I know how to do it. Was just thinking out loud. mechanically it would be doing the same thing, would it not? The only difference being how far the shackle will truly drop forward, but with a string it would give you the absolute maximum without the hassle of breaking the pack down.
     
  5. Jan 19, 2016 at 8:46 PM
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    If I were to guess it would be because a leaf spring that is flat from shackle to shackle is the same as a piece of string, straight. But the shape of a leaf will not reflect a piece of string at full droop cause they are formed with a predetermined shape. :notsure: just a guess
     
  6. Jan 19, 2016 at 8:48 PM
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    I don't see how a piece of string could accurately mimic a leaf bending at droop ? shock tab and hoop placement is so critical I would not ever risk it
     
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  7. Jan 19, 2016 at 8:54 PM
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    So I get how using the main leaf of the pack will give you your maximum droop and bump numbers but like I mentioned before in my case, the overload leaf limits how much I can stuff the axle and thus limits "bump." So using the main leaf with the block to simulate the rest of the pack is essentially going to give me false hope.
     
  8. Jan 19, 2016 at 8:56 PM
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    Maybe so, it was just a thought and i was wondering if anyone had an answer.
     
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    The overload shouldnt prevent the pack from flattening completely though. It may take more force to get there but shouldnt prevent it. Now if you were bumping in negative arch it would effect travel
     
  10. Jan 19, 2016 at 9:26 PM
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    It could be in my thread or it may have been in the old MTBS.
     
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    My dakars are pretty much flat always. Have been since I got them and it is normal for dakars. According to others who have spoken with ARB they are made to go into negative arch Under full compression.
     
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    So I am completely paranoid about my Fox shocks rusting out, this last little bit of snow has the roads literally dusty with salt and I found my self washing the truck to get the salt off the shocks in 14 degree weather today sooo

    Is there any "common" product such as WD40 for example I could spray on the shocks every once in a while to help prevent them from rusting? Something you could pick up from the local auto parts store?
     
  13. Jan 19, 2016 at 10:29 PM
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    A lot of people Fluid Film their frames, not sure about using that on coil overs but something to look into
     
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    Yeah Ive heard of that and may look into it but I'm hoping someone has some secret spray that works kinda the same way, like I've always heard WD40 prevents rust, but I figured some of these guys would know for sure before I go to spraying all kinds of crap all over them!
     
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    @iJonny there is another question that gets asked frequently in the MT and LT threads. Maybe add a "shock care" link for all things related? :notsure:
     
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    I run Boeshield, very similar to Fluid Film. http://www.amazon.com/Boeshield-T-9-Waterproof-Lubrication-aerosol/dp/B001447PEK
     
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    If you don't care about how they look check out "corrosion x". Sprayed that stuff all over my Dakars which fixed the squeak and coated them.
     
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    Forgot that about the dakars. Then yes an overload would prevent some travel. The pack could still go negative, its just going to take a lot more force to get there.
     
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    Unless you weld the lower shock mounts below the axle you won't have enough up travel to go so negative to hit your overload springs.
     
  20. Jan 20, 2016 at 3:23 AM
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    Oh really? Stock shock tabs and my Dakars go negative every time I wheel.
     
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