in need of brake rotor advice

The donor truck had original rotors which are really good by default,plus I'm cheap. The person resurfacing the rotors told me the rotors are good for two or one more resurfacing.
Once the brake pads run out I am going to resurface the rotors and replace the pads with EBC yellow stuff. Heard good things about this combo.

 

ok because I see a set of rotors go for around $30 each


also is it better to go with the ceramic or metallic brake pads on these?

I pull a small flat boat around most of the time so this sounds like something I should do on my truck but im still undecided.

 

try this. go to the parts store and compare a caliper both from your truck and an 06 prerunner. see if the bolt patterns match (13wg stamping). the 13wg calipers were the recall replacements for the early 2000s tundras, AND they were the prerunner calipers from 2005-2015. they SHOULD fit. if they do have the same bolt mounting pattern, take 1 side home and put it on. just don't disconnect your original caliper or remove your rotor. youre only trying to see if the mounted caliper will rub on your rim.

if no rubbing and perfect fit, there you go! get all the brake components for a second gen prerunner and your golden.

 

That would be awesome "current" information to know if they are the same fit.

This helped me a lot when I was deciding to do this mod. With the original Tundra rotors and cheap autozone gold ceramic , the weakest point on my braking system is definitely my tires. The brakes can do more but the tires let go of the pavement. The only regret is not having enough money to buy and install the stainless steel lines from wheelers offroad at the same times as the brake swap. SS lines are actually part of the next brake pad change plan.

 

2 things bout ceramic and metallic pads. metallic pads actually stop better than ceramic. but, theres alot of side problems like noise, long "break in" time, and difficult-to-remove dust. ceramic, though not as good, can be just as good since most brake setups are made larger to make up for the difference in performance. plus ceramic pads do not make noise, and are extremely easy to clean off your rims (metallic brake dust will almost fuse to your metal rims, ceramic just sits there til you wash it off with a hose)

if you don't care about the noise and such, go with metallic. if you do care, or just want to stick with the OE design, go with ceramic. either way is fine, so long as you go with reputable manufacturers like raybestos.

if you want to make sure youre getting the best quality possible, you can do 2 things. get OEM, or go to advance auto parts/carquest auto parts and buy either the Akebono pads, or wearever platinum pads. I cant remember the name of the manufacturer for the the wearever platinums, but akebono is the worlds top manufacturer of brake pads, while the manufacturer of the wearever platinums is the worlds 2nd largest.

any other brand you buy here in the states, i guarantee you, is NOT a manufacturer supplier like these other 2 (not even NAPA, who I promote very well and will stand by). plus, the united states has no standards at all whatsoever for brake friction materials. I could literally get soles of a shoe from the dump, cut them into the shape of our brake pads, glue it to the backing of our brake pad, and legally sell them.

Euro-Asian brands on the other hand, do have standards that must be met in order to legally manufacturer in their respective countries. this includes noise reduction and stopping capabilities.

keep in mind though. if you go with the wearever platinum pads, you wont get OE pads. mainly because that would be an infringement on their respective owners formulations. so you would only get OES pads from a manufacturer that makes OEM pads.

if you want true stopping power, go with Akebono. they do not sell specialized formulations for manufacturers. they just sell them the pads by bulk to put on their vehicles.

 

Guys little bit of info for you on pads:

Wearever platinum are the only ones I know of that are made almost 'fool proof' with a burnishing compound stripe inlaid on the pad. That meaning there is no true breakin to this pad they are designed to put on and run without the traditional 30/20/30 breakin to achieve a nice mated finish to your pads and rotors. Akebono however is your true oem supplier. Look carefully at the part numbers in aftermarket pads and you will see many carry a similar part number code, this is because that is formula specific to the vehicle, If you see a supplier with a much lower series that is a one size fits all generic pad formulation.

As for what numbers go with what:
2000 tundra front system 4WD
rotor YH145291 ADVANCE AUTO/CARQUEST 12.54" diameter
pads ****976 series is for 13L 5.3" long

$56 ACT976 Brake Pad Set, GREY

ACT976 for akebono PXD976H for platinum pads
Calipers 13WL LH: 19-2712 RH:19-2713

If anyone has any parts availability location questions feel free to pm me anytime.

 

I'm looking to do the upgrade as well. I just called NAPA and the quoted me the following:

1. NAPA 13WL Calipers $98.99 Each x 2 = $197.98
2. Akebono Pads = $79.99 for the set of 4
3. Standard Rotors $57.99 x 2 / Premium Rotors $98.99 x 2

The SS lines from Wheelers would be $72.

Sounds about right?

Here's a quick update I got from calling a different NAPA and checking their site in more detail. I got different numbers, but I did get part numbers for the calipers at least, so I'm more confident with this bit. Just for reference in case any of you case can find this useful:

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Calipers: 13WL CAL SE3263 Left Front / CAL SE3264 Right Front - $54.49 ea + core ($108.98)

https://www.napaonline.com/napa/en/p/SEBSE3263/SEBSE3263_0206293132 and https://www.napaonline.com/napa/en/p/SEBSE3264/SEBSE3264_0206250247

Rotors NAPA Premium - 12.55” - $74.99 ea x 2 ($149.98)

Akebono Pads $54.49

 

I'm looking at these NAPA Eclipse calipers. https://www.napaonline.com/napa/en/p/SEBSE3264/SEBSE3264_0206250247 Which of course are cheaper on the web than locally. I think these are the same ones that quoted me at $98.99 at the loca store. Not sure.

 

Yeah Toyota OEM WL 231mm Calipers are $318 a piece. And that's from toyotapartsdeal.com. I got my calipers, rotors, pads all OEM plus Wheeler's front steel braided brake lines in the front and the single brake line in the rear for my 04 DC Tacoma from a 2006 DC Toyota Tundra 4x4 limited automatic w/ the 4.7 V8. And I have 16x8 Method double standards w/ 4.5" of BS. Those Wheeler's brake lines help a lot in the front when it comes to installation.

 

I'm ordering the Wheeler's lines. But since I'm doing Tundra brakes, I'm not sure if I should order the Tacoma lines or the Tundra lines. Lol

 

I do have one big doubt. I keep seeing posts where people state the size of the rotors in the Tundra brake upgrade is actually 231mm, that it's the caliper that's bigger and stronger. However, a few posts above, someone mentions a 12.54" rotor. That's 318mm. What's the deal? Which one is it that fits?

 

The WE Calipers are smaller than the WL Calipers and the WL's are 231mm. And the rotors I measured were just under 12.5". It just depends if you go w/ WE or WL Calipers. But the WL's are bigger. Awhile back Toyota Tundras had WE Calipers on their later models then they went w/ bigger Calipers, the WL's. Since they needed stronger stopping power. I don't much about the WE's but I'm pretty sure they are 194. __mm's Here are the brake lines I used from Wheeler's. Mine fit just fine. The pads I have are 5.3" long.

 

Thanks. That's actually very helpful. I kept digging and digging on the forum and finally made sense of it all. When people say 231mm, they've been talking about the calipers. Sometimes not very clearly so I thought there were 2 different sized for the rotors. But all good now. I get it.

Doing the WL calipers for sure as well as the lines from Wheeler's. I did notice there is a kit from LCE Performance that adds a few other things over just the lines... but it seems it might not be necessary. >> http://www.lceperformance.com/Stainless-Brake-Line-Kit-Tacom-To-Tundra-Upgrade-p/1055114.htm The lines are already priced pretty high. Apart from that, I've heard mixed comments about the rotors at NAPA. They do sell the Akebono pads which is fine. In any case, I might look around only for the rotors and perhaps EBC or Akebono pads, but still do the calipers locally so I don't have to ship the cores.

 

Best write up I've found.

 

As i previously mentioned i installed the tundra 231mm brakes on my 04 taco, the 199mm on my 00 4runner and i just installed this 199mm tundra kit on my wife's 02 4runner.

 

I have seen these on Amazon but have not used them. Since I was able to get all OEM components.FRONT Red [2] Calipers + [2] Rotors + Quiet Low Dust [4] Ceramic Pads Performance Kit

Callahan Brake Parts CCK11208 FRONT OE [2] Calipers + [2] Drilled/Slotted Rotors + Quiet Low Dust [4] Ceramic Pads Kit

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EOBMFAY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_MVJqyb9FGMXAD

 

I like that silver colored caliper

 

Finished product on my 04 Tacoma. Didn't have time to paint Calipers. It was a 108 degrees the day we did the upgrade. Way bigger than my stock Tacoma rotors & Calipers

 

Brembo blanks for the rotors.

Do not use semi - metallic pads... they wear rotors badly.

I use Akebono ceramic pads and Brembo blanks.

tho' the tundra caliper upgrade is a worthy consideration.