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Anyone else have transfercase troubles?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by WCoyne, Jan 27, 2016.

  1. Feb 8, 2016 at 9:00 AM
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    WCoyne

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    The dealer here did
     
  2. Feb 8, 2016 at 9:16 AM
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    Is there a possibility that you have to back up a foot or so to release the gears? Had this in a F350 way back when disengaging low range.
     
  3. Feb 8, 2016 at 9:18 AM
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    I tried everything to get the truck to come out of 4 low. The actuator in the transfercase goes out and no matter what you do it stays in 4 low
     
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  4. Feb 8, 2016 at 12:10 PM
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    That move was to deal with the automatic front hubs, not the transfer case.
    These trucks use a differential disconnect on the passenger side front half-shaft instead of automatic hubs.

    The front disconnect mechanism has nothing to do with getting OUT of LOW range, since 4L/4H transition doesn't involve the front end.
     
  5. Feb 8, 2016 at 12:18 PM
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    Really? I don't think so.... in the image below, the piece with the pink letters "048" is the actuator. Comes off with 2 big bolts. And yes, that is a picture of a 2016.

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    Anybody having problems with the actuator not working, lift the back wheels *slightly* off the ground, just enough to turn the wheels, remove the actuator, and you can manually move the shaft into the right place you need it. Then reinstall the actuator so it doesn't spray oil out all over the place.
     
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  6. Feb 8, 2016 at 1:34 PM
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    Yep, got a Corolla loaner from the dealer. Looks like it will be about Thursday before they can get it back together.

    They have to get an actuator from Cincinnati hopefully by Wednesday...Then take the transfer case out to replace it
     
  7. Feb 8, 2016 at 1:57 PM
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    Thanks for the post!! They really told us a long line of BS then.

    I was just posting what I was told and I honestly couldn't understand why the actuator would be in the transfer case
     
  8. Feb 8, 2016 at 3:23 PM
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    Corrolla's must be the standard loaner car
     
  9. Feb 8, 2016 at 4:13 PM
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    That is correct....They have to take the transfer case out and split it apparently. The service guy I talked to seemed pretty knowledgeable about it.
    The above picture is of the actuator but it's the fingers that go into the case that are the issue. He said not to worry that it's not a transmission problem, just the transfer case which is a fairly simple gear box. He also said Borg-Warner is producing the cases now.

    That Corolla is nice, leather heated seats and all...

    And I even tried disconnecting my negative battery cable but to no avail.
     
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  10. Feb 8, 2016 at 4:35 PM
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    I think you will find that is is an Aisin-Warner not Borg- Warner.
     
  11. Feb 8, 2016 at 4:52 PM
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    There is a massive cost difference in the transfer case vs. the acuator.
     
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    The problem was fixed last week. I am sure he was just trying to offer anything to get us to leave the showroom. Even though we were civil we were still a disruption who didn't go away until we got some answers. I just cannot believe it takes over two weeks for an actuator to be delivered and they gave us multiple dates that the truck would be fixed and someone would show up to get the truck and it was delayed again.
     
  13. Feb 9, 2016 at 5:41 AM
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    If it's under warranty with a broken part inside they will replace the entire unit it goes back to a repair facility to be repaired for the next install.
     
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    Yes, IF it's an internal part, but it's not.

    I don't think the factory takes returns like that and repairs the parts from other vehicles and installs them on new ones.
     
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    I had a noise in my front diff. I'm sure it was the axle support bearing it was only at very low speeds the tech decided it was the diff it's self it did not matter to me what they did with it because it was under warranty. They replaced the entire assembly it was painted black and had red RTV sealant that left little doubt in my mind it had been rebuilt it was not a new unit.IMG_3183.jpg
     
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    After reading theses stories , glad I have a 2 wheel drive !
     
  17. Feb 10, 2016 at 7:16 AM
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    Thats how they come from the factory, Toyota uses orange gasket sealer on gear oil and atf applications. The only units they rebuild are transmissions, alternators, starters, hybrid batteries, and a few other things. Just like most things now a days its throw away.

    It does just unbolt but the shift rods go into the transfer case and have retaining rings on the forks. You have to take the back half of the case apart to get the actuator out.
     
  18. Feb 10, 2016 at 7:54 AM
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    You're talking about something different then -- the shift fork. If the shift fork is stuck or broken, then it won't help to replace the actuator.

    Also, the transfer case *IS* a transmission. No simpler than the main transmission. Possibly *more* complex, since it uses a planetary gear set for low range. There are just fewer gears in it than the main transmission.

    I wouldn't believe the dealer about it being borgwarner without corroborating information from a reputable source (which could include picture of case casting if it has a logo in it). Its not a natural fit -- borgwarner is a competitor to aisin, which is a subsidiary of toyota.
     
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    Well the original one was not painted and did not have red RTV sealer. Slide under yours and have a look. I know the underneath of mine pretty well I own a lift.
     
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    Also, the transfer case *IS* a transmission. No simpler than the main transmission. Possibly *more* complex, since it uses a planetary gear set for low range. There are just fewer gears in it than the main transmission.

    I wouldn't believe the dealer about it being borgwarner without corroborating information from a reputable source (which could include picture of case casting if it has a logo in it). Its not a natural fit -- borgwarner is a competitor to aisin, which is a subsidiary of toyota.[/QUOTE]

    Aisin (Seiki) and Warner gear are in bed together it is a joint venture has been since the late 60's they make transmissions and transfer cases for Toyota. Automatic transmissions can not function with out planetary gears and the Tacoma automatic has several. A Toyota transfer case is a simple 2 speed transmission with a planetary low (because it saves room) and a direct drive just like every other modern transfer case made.
     

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