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BigMike’s Big Journey: New 2016 Tacoma

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Builds (2016-2023)' started by BigMike, Apr 18, 2016.

  1. Apr 19, 2016 at 8:22 PM
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    Do you need to know, or care?
    You're story is interesting to watch, keep it coming OP, definitely following this to the end.
     
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    I'm getting a belt out of this. You're enthusiasm is providing some excellent ammo against some of my doubts.
    Enjoy!
     
  3. Apr 19, 2016 at 9:08 PM
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    Welcome to Texas. Safe travels home. Some severe weather to our west.

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  4. Apr 20, 2016 at 8:02 AM
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    Yes Sir thors you guys have some crazy loud thunder out here. I guess everything really is larger in Texas. I can't remember the last time I've heard thunder this loud.

    Good morning from Killeen, Texas. Our plan this morning was to go explore both Colorado Bend State Park and Enchanted Rock State Park, however it rained so much last night and we didn't bring any hiking gear for mud so we decided to sleep in to recover from the long two day stretch. Here come my remaining pics from yesterday:

    Finally out on the open road!

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    Starship Pegasus

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    This truck loves to have its picture taken

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  5. Apr 20, 2016 at 8:02 AM
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    Our first stop was for the wife at Magnolia Market. We don't watch much TV but she does like Fixer Upper. I was pretty impressed with the place. We knew things here were overpriced but it was well laid out and they've got a nice thing going on here.

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    Out back they had a garden and some food trucks/trailers

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    I was mostly interested in the old ruins of the building left behind, such as an intricate high pressure valve and pipe assembly. Very cool

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  6. Apr 20, 2016 at 8:03 AM
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    While the wife was doing some shopping I performed the first mod [​IMG]

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    Second mod is a magnetic CD-insert cellphone holder :thumbs:

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    Then we drove over to this awesome place :D

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    Eat your heart out Dad! haha

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    The sign I was waiting for in front of the Municipal City Court of Marlin, Texas

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  8. Apr 20, 2016 at 8:04 AM
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    Nice and green out here.

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    Plenty of wildflowers

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    Of course I couldn't end the day without testing out the 4WD system :) Shifted in and out both high and low range, no problem

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    Finally, the end to one fantastic day, parked outside our hotel room

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    A room with a view

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    Awesome post Mike!!
     
  10. Apr 20, 2016 at 8:30 AM
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    I can't believe you drove to Marlin but didn't stop first in Rosebud! Best place for discount western wear.
     
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    That was a baby storm. You know, the kind that just lulls a true Texan to sleep. :D
     
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    Sweet truck OP. Just wondering, did you get the tow package? Can't tell from the pics on my phone, but i don't see the reciever.
     
  13. Apr 20, 2016 at 12:21 PM
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    Big Mike,
    This is awesome. What an incredible story and I am glad I could be a part of it! The truck looks bad ass!
    Have a great trip and thank you for the love on the post. You know we are still your guys at MICHAEL TOYOTA in Fresno.
    Hit me up when you get home!
    Cheers,
    Big Ern
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  14. Apr 21, 2016 at 5:43 AM
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    Have been very busy over here, also trying to get caught up on sleep (my wife does not drive stick-shift unless the truck is Triple cased). I've been compiling this and had it mostly done last night but just couldn't stay up any later.

    Here comes my first full report!

    An Old School Hilux Rock Crawler owner's First Impressions of the new Tacoma

    Drove 212 miles yesterday and here comes my first report!

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    Because the above pic shows it, might as well start there.
    Fuel Economy
    The 19.1 MPG did include a lot of wasted city use including much time idling around trying to figure out our plan/schedule/directions as well as functions of the truck. Got crossed up a few times, had to backtrack, etc, while building confidence to use the truck's navigation instead of my cellphone. Also I "had to" open it up and use the skinny pedal a couple times, um, you know, for science :D Definitely making over 20 MPG on the freeway @ 75 MPH. For reference my 2.7-liter 3RZ-FE 4cyl powered 1981 Rock Crawler with full body armor and Triple Marlin Crawler cases makes 20 MPG with 37" Interco IROKs at this same highway speed. This is why I like 4cyls. This Tacoma won't be able to touch this.

    There is something I find lacking (maybe I just haven't figured it out yet), but MPG is only displayed in averages. Our Yaris and other modern Toyota's I've driven all have instantaneous MPG readouts. There is a blue horizontal instantaneous bar graph, but it lacks a numerical reading. The Eco screen only lists averages.

    Reverse Camera
    Reverse camera is brilliant. Already have some leveraging ideas for its use for Crawling.

    Cup Holders
    Oh man! I've got a truck with cup holders!! Eight of them in fact :smokin:

    BSM and RCTA
    The Blind Spot Mirror is nice. Took a bit of initial trust adjustment but I've really warmed up to these. Still, I miss my lil blind-spot (convex) mirrors. I use these on all my vehicles so I stopped at an O'Reilly's and they only had some ugly thick black framed mirrors and none of that crap is going on this truck. So I ordered these frameless ones which will be waiting for me back at home: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EVMT6A8

    The Rear Cross-Traffic Alert hasn't alerted me of anything yet. :D

    4WD
    As mentioned I had to try out 4WD first day off the lot. System works great. I like how solid the rotary switch is. First time ever using a switch to enable 4WD. Realllllly miss the transfer case shift lever(s). Nevertheless, depending on the required modifications I'll run into soon, I might actually keep this shift style for the rear t/case after all.

    Navigation unit
    I am really blown away by this unit. I've used a number of them in various cars and most I've seen are slow and laggy. This Entune Premium with App Suite is brilliant. I had it mostly configured before we made our first stop for lunch :D

    The iPhone Entune app (1.5 star rating on iTunes) so far has been useless for me. The only app I've tried is Pandora and I get ads over Pandora which I don't get through my iPhone (thank you jailbrake!). So I prefer Bluetooth. I think the Gas Station app only works if the Entune app is launched on my phone. That is pretty lame.

    Speaking of the App Suite, here is something that is particularly annoying to me. According to both the official Toyota website and brochure, for my trim and truck build, this should ONLY be available WITH AN AUTOMATIC DOUBLE CAB:

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    I did not request for this; I was actually bummed I wouldn't be getting it. I do not have JBL speakers (I have not seen any JBL logos) but I do have the App-Suite. So Toyota willingly breaks their own rules when it comes to "Apps" but NOT when it comes to something IMPORTANT such as a REAR E-LOCKER...

    The navigation's accuracy and ability is between that of Waze and Google Maps. Very impressed with it, especially once I figured out how to mute the lady's voice.

    Noise
    I've never driven another Tacoma but this truck is uber quiet. I think it is more quiet than Marlin's 2000 V8 Tundra, and if it wasn't for these noisy stock tires it might even be more quiet than our Yaris SE.

    It does sound like there is noise coming from the back firewall or lower b-pillar areas. I noticed there is a rubber flap on both sides between the cab & bed to isolate vertical flow between the two. Nice touch Toyota. But I wonder if this higher velocity of air between the two is coming through as noise in the cab...

    I can see a custom exhaust and intake giving a lot of life to this quiet cabin ;)

    Hood scoop
    Man... I just don't like it. It is only my second day so I must be cautious in coming to conclusions. But for me it comes down to the following:
    1. It raises the hood line quite a bit which will certainly block my view of rocks on the trail, and
    2. It is fake.
    3. A lot of sun glare.
    If this opinion remains when I get home I'll be looking to swap with a non-scoop hood.

    Ignition key
    I am very happy I have normal keys. From my past months lurking I've seen flip keys that look very brittle. I am very happy with the keys I got.

    The main doors
    The main doors are very tight on both sides. They will not fully close unless you make a conscience effort to close them. I don't believe them to be out of alignment. I believe they will require some breaking-in and this I like very much. No flimsy sheet metal noise here. Someone put some time into the fit and finish of the Access Cab doors.

    The access doors
    These are VERY nice. I can't believe how fantastic having these doors are. Access to the 'XtraCab' section of the truck is wonderful, and they open and close much better than the doors on my parent's 2000 Access Cab Tundra, which are more like full size doors with exterior handles.

    The driver's seat
    Not that I need to complain here but the seat is "okay". I have only experienced the driver's seat thus far. The seats in my MR2 and Yaris SE are both far better. But then again these Tacoma seats are lightyears better than the ones in my 1981 Hilux haha

    The only adjustment is lumbar. I'd think that for a $30k truck they could have more adjustability such as tilt, height, and lateral controls. Perhaps the Limited has this...

    One thing that is pretty nice is that the driver's seat can slide about a mile back. I am 6'0" and always have my seat back as far as it can go. Not with this Tacoma. These seat rails probably have enough movement for 6'5" drivers.

    Factory alarm
    I have a question: Where is the alarm? I tested it and it appears to only be a keyless entry system. No audible alarm, no hoking of the horn or flashing of the lights. There is a sticker on the driver's side window that shows soundwaves emitting from the vehicle, but so far I haven't figured out how to enable the "alarm". I have this same issue with our 2013 Yaris.

    Two ways I tested it:
    1. Remove key from ignition -> Open door then close door -> "arm" system -> Flip the door lock lever to the unlock position by hand -> have a friend open the door from the outside -> Nothing happens.
    2. Roll window down halfway -> Remove key from ignition -> Exit vehicle -> Close door -> "arm" system -> Reach over the window and manually unlock door as above -> Open door from outside -> Nothing happens.

    Unless the system is smart enough to know that the door was unlocked inside by the flip lever, it is not working. How do I enable the Tacoma alarm from silent mode to alarm mode? Thanks

    Front shocks
    The front shocks definitely need more dampening. The 5100-series Bilsteins we carry will be a welcomed improvement once I get back to our shop.

    Brakes
    Brakes feel great. Hopefully I never need to test the ABS. The real test will come once I get off-road.

    Visibility
    I am very happy this does not have the incredibly limited visibility as a FJ Cruiser. Pretty confident I'll be able to adjust to this truck for Rock Crawling. Over the shoulder visibility is good; The taller bedsides are not noticeable to me. A-pillars are wider than my non-airbag Hilux, but not stupid-wide like they are on my Yaris. The packaging of the curtain airbags has improved.

    The transmission
    You've waited for it so here it is: GREAT TRANSMISSION. All the marketing hype about dual synchros is true: Downshifts into 1st gear do not require the vehicle to be at a near stop. Toyota has done a fantastic design with 1st gear. Downshifts as if it was a 3.8:1. Surprisingly, unless the specs I've found online are wrong, it is lower than the 1st gear 4cyl transmission in my Hilux (3.98 vs 3.95) which is unexpected for an engine with more bottom end torque as the 6cyl. However this is great news once I get our Crawler installed.

    Some RPM comparisons for you automatic lovers:
    RPM at 70 MPH: 6th gear: 2,400, 5th gear: 2,900
    RPM at 80 MPH: 6th gear: 2,700

    Clutch
    Clutch is like any other factory Toyota clutch. Light pedal, mushy engagement window.

    Engine
    Amazing engine. I am very impressed with it so far. It does have a slight hiccup in power delivery when you first hit the throttle, however I've never driven a drive-by-wire stick-shift before so I don't have anything to compare with. I've only opened it up a couple times and so far there seems to be two sharp power increases: One about 2,800 RPM and another about 3,900 RPM. Pulls very hard above 4k. Torque around 1,800 RPM is very good. I had no issues slowing for traffic and reaccelerating to speed without downshifting from 6th gear. Will be interesting how much this will change once I get all my gear loaded up in the bed.

    Other notes:
    I have not heard the D4S system "cleaning itself".
    Idles low, about 700 RPM, also very good for Rock Crawling.
    The engine shakes a lot during cranking and run-off. Love that 11.8:1 compression!

    The curious things...
    - The Recirculate button is of AN ACTUAL PICKUP TRUCK. You look at any recirculate button/switch for any Hilux and it is a recirculate drawing of a family car silhouette.
    - If you don't fully activate the blinker, then it will blink a minimum 3 times. Very annoying. My habit of 20 yrs driving is to blink twice for lane changes by only slightly moving the lever. Even if I barely move the lever for one blink and release the Tacoma will blink twice more.
    - Steering wheel controls: I like the layout and use them often, but Toyota used a non-standard audio control: Right & left buttons control volume while up & down buttons control skip.
    - Brake and gas pedal are wider apart than my Hilux. Maybe this is to account for people wearing large work boots. I have to exaggerate my heel-toe movements. I'll be looking for pedal covers soon.
    - I do not like the doors auto-locking once the truck is in motion. I was taught to never drive away with the doors unlocked, however while Crawling I leave them unlocked on purpose due to frequently stops. I'll be overriding this soon.
    - I do not like how the air vent mode auto-reverts to main vents only upon each and every time the truck is started. I like having ventilation for my feet and 95% of the time I have the mode set for main vents + feet vents. So every time I get in the truck I have to readjust the vent mode. Dumb. Also unnecessary wear and tear.
    - Windows have auto down AND up including for the passenger door control. Very nice.
    - Visors are both telescopic AND both with lighted mirrors. Very nice.

    And that's it for my initial impressions! Back on the road we go! :driving:

    Regards,
    BigMike
     
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    Yes sir, got this mostly for the engine oil cooler and higher output alternator. The only options I got were the tow package and the technology package.
     
  16. Apr 21, 2016 at 9:01 AM
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    Nice writeup Mike! Regarding the alarmsystem, were you testing it while standing next to the truck with the key fob in your pocket? If so, it probably won't go off as long as it senses the key nearby.
     
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    He doesnt have smart start, he has to use a key... No sensing.
     
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    In the headunit you are able to adjust the settings for auto door lock, headlights , cabin lights, and almost anything you can think of... Very handy:) great thread and hope to see it through.
     
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    Interesting. I will take a look for this. I haven't had any time with the truck not moving as I have such a long journey back home. I've gone through as much as I can but as many things are disabled while in motion it must be one of those. I'm assuming someone has figured out how to disable this "while in motion" nonsense, right? I'm definitely planning to investigate how to override this.

    It seems that by the third day the air vent mode no longer auto-reverts! Very happy to see this. I don't think I'm taking crazy pills; I clearly remember having to switch back to half main + half feet vents more than once.

    Here come some pics from yesterday's drive, Keeling, TX to Boerne, TX.

    Woke up to the truck's first bath.

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    Beautiful

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    Pic of both doors open. This is something I could never do with my '81. This stuff would be in the back getting wet. So happy to have an Access Cab! I'm planning to remove the rear seats as I don't intend to use them and I'll gain a tad more interior storage.

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    Moar random pics

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    Visited the largest Pecan in the world, only in Texas. The construction sort of ruined it

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    Cut'n it close! Back home I'll intentionally run it out of gas to see how many miles after this it will go. (I'll have a 2.5 gal can of fuel prepared for the occasion.)

    This truck has a very nice range: 362 miles on the first tank. And I'm not even sure if it was entirely full to begin with (picked it up from the dealer with it "full").

    It took 18.87 gallons and averaged 19.3 MPG for the first tank.

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    AC only comes in one bed (LB you posted isnt necessary, thats used to distinguish for DC here on the forum). And the fenders on the 2016 are even bigger than 2nd gens and you prefer the new 3.5 over the 1GR, a highly rated and well proven engine? Interesting. Good luck with build.
     
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