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Speed Freek · May 19, 2016

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I guess they do this all the time. I'm sure there will be another one soon. I'd love to meet you man! Hear great things about your work!
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Thank you, I live in Vista so Im down whenever they have another one. The one day I dont log on, haha.

noSKills858 · May 19, 2016

MadTaco461 said: ↑

I love that peanut butter milk stout. That beer was on my mind all day yesterday. Next time
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You won't like it if you drink only that for about a month. I screwed myself on that one now I'm disgusted when I see it on the shelf.

Way to go me. Moron.

Mcdees84 · May 19, 2016

Any of you fellow North County guys go up to Deer Springs? I keep hearing about it but don't know much about it. Do you just enter from behind that Arco by the 15? And is it private or public? Any legal issues with hitting that trail and what is the difficulty level?

TC yota · May 19, 2016

Mcdees84 said: ↑

Any of you fellow North County guys go up to Deer Springs? I keep hearing about it but don't know much about it. Do you just enter from behind that Arco by the 15? And is it private or public? Any legal issues with hitting that trail and what is the difficulty level?
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I've gone up a few times lately, I go up the San Marcos side off twin oaks. It is technically 'private property'
It is owned part by the water district and part by a real estate Corp that wants to develop it into a huge towncenter/housing bullshit. As long as you aren't doing anything illegal, you shouldn't get hassled up there.

Speed Freek · May 19, 2016

Mcdees84 said: ↑

Any of you fellow North County guys go up to Deer Springs? I keep hearing about it but don't know much about it. Do you just enter from behind that Arco by the 15? And is it private or public? Any legal issues with hitting that trail and what is the difficulty level?
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AKA: LW (Lawrence Welk) you can get there behind the AM/PM or up the road a bit behind the nursery, the trails vary, plenty of mild stuff to play on..

Mcdees84 · May 19, 2016

TC yota said: ↑

I've gone up a few times lately, I go up the San Marcos side off twin oaks. It is technically 'private property'
It is owned part by the water district and part by a real estate Corp that wants to develop it into a huge towncenter/housing bullshit. As long as you aren't doing anything illegal, you shouldn't get hassled up there.
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Speed Freek[OP] said: ↑

AKA: LW (Lawrence Welk) you can get there behind the AM/PM or up the road a bit behind the nursery, the trails vary, plenty of mild stuff to play on..
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Cool. Thanks guys! I want to check it out soon.

TC yota · May 19, 2016

Mcdees84 said: ↑

Cool. Thanks guys! I want to check it out soon.
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Let me know when I'm down to go, maybe we can get a meet going?

BBtacosurfer · May 19, 2016

Mcdees84 said: ↑

Any of you fellow North County guys go up to Deer Springs? I keep hearing about it but don't know much about it. Do you just enter from behind that Arco by the 15? And is it private or public? Any legal issues with hitting that trail and what is the difficulty level?
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Yep...I get sketched out whenever I drive back there from the road. There's always dudes or big rigs parked there giving me a weird look when I go back there

BBtacosurfer · May 19, 2016

get prepared for some solid pinstriping...one section is pretty overgrown and a jeep can barely squeeze by. My taco got smoked in that one section on the trail. I was thinking about some clippers or something to cut the brush back. All the rain this spring has it pretty over grown.

MTgirl · May 19, 2016

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I try to hit doghouse a couple times a month for cigars and bourbon. Run into a lot of people up there. Mostly good encounters... Mostly. The border patrol are usually super friendly, but maybe their budget got slashed or something because they don't even bother to slow down anymore, let alone talk to us. The damn county also likes to get in the habit of locking gates to public land out there too so be aware of that crap. Encountered that one time and kept a set of bolt cutters and a spare lock of my own in my truck after that. Problem solved!

Anyway, the point of my story is one night a couple of good ol boys were passing through and stopped to jaw with us for an hour or so. Told us about some long ass trail that runs the border fence that they drive on occasion and is called the "pole road" for all the telephone poles that line it or some shit. I've yet to drive it myself though I've been meaning to for a while. That view up top Otay is just too hard to not stop and make camp for a couple hours though.

Hope that helps get you where you're going.
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How is that problem solved? Gates on roads and trails are locked all of the time - fora variety of reasons. Up here there are seasonal closures for weather, wildlife migration and calving, along with permanent closures for misuse/abuse of the areas. Cutting locks and forcing your way in will only ensure one thing - more stringent laws and more closures. Don't like that a trail is closed? Contact the governing party and ask why and what could be done to open it back up.

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Thanks for the info, I'll be sure to bring a cordless sawzall and grinder out to chop down the gate altogether! Jokes aside maybe you could show me the trails so I could mark them for future reference.

I think the term you were looking for was "pole line" which is commonly used to describe the maintenance route that follows posts with telephone or electrical lines.
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I don't think you want to take any trail recommendations from him....

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Yeah, I'm kind of over letting the State punish me for shit other people do. Guys, save your lecture for someone who gives a shit. If it's private property I'm not going to go near it, but tell your buddies to mark it with a sign saying as much. If it's a gate that obviously leads to public land and it's locked, I'm going to leave an empty box of fucks and a broken chain next to it (will still close it behind me though).
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You seem to be leading the way...
A locked gate is locked for a reason. Its not up to you to decide to undo that.

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^ Fact of the matter is, you have no idea who I am or the care I take when I'm on a trail, let alone what gates I'm talking about or the reasoning I use when deciding to open one up. Not that that ever stopped anyone (especially on this site) from getting up on their internet soap box to grace us all with their moral authority, but that's how it is. Most people get bothered when someone else thinks for themselves instead of lock stepping with the rest of the crowd. I get it. I truly do.

At any rate, stop and say "hi" if you ever see anyone in a Tacoma parked up top that mountain. Might just be me, and I've yet to have an unpleasant chat with a stranger up there yet.
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Its not that we discourage someone from standing up for themselves we discourage people from breaking the law. Most of us here enjoy the same things - getting out in our trucks and exploring. When done responsibly its great. When one wants to break into closed areas or tear up trails without any regard for the next guy it becomes as issue that concerns us all. Its only takes one person to ruin things for everyone else.

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^ There's plenty of logic in his post, but the subject is quite a bit grayer than his simpleton's response, amounting more or less to putting his fingers in his ears and repeating himself. It would seem that in worlds like his, people are either exactly like him or they're out dumping toxic waste on the trails kicking puppies and I've just got no tolerance for that kind of stupidity. Get enough of that crap from the anti-gun people.

Yep, government locks that have no reason being there, but fuck all if there's a point making that clear to you given how "unlikely" you seem to think that is. That's why I said to stop and say hi, by the way. You get a different perspective on people when you actually meet them and have an actual conversation instead of just talking shit anonymously on the internet.
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Plenty of shit talking going on at meets too, you've never attended a TW meet I take it? No one that I've ever wheeled with would tolerate your behavior.

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Hi - I'm Matt. I'm at most of the meets we have. Im not anonymous. But I still don't get your attitude in this thread. It's as if you want to be known as a jerk rather than being able to see others points of view and have an adult discussion about them. I don't know why your care to bash people in here bc they say you probably shouldn't do something. Happy to carry this on in person at our next meet and then you may realize everyone in here is generally looking out for the greater good of what we like to do.
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Hi I'm Lisa and I've planned the majority of the Montana TW meets over the years....and I tend to discourage folks who blatantly ignore the basic rules and principals of "tread lightly" from attending our meets. We don't need that kind of publicity. I hope you guys feel the same way.

4x4Runner · May 19, 2016

Chesh said: ↑

Thanks, I'll remember that if I ever come across a combination lock. Otherwise the literal weakest link is getting cut.
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Chesh said: ↑

Yeah, I'm kind of over letting the State punish me for shit other people do. Guys, save your lecture for someone who gives a shit. If it's private property I'm not going to go near it, but tell your buddies to mark it with a sign saying as much. If it's a gate that obviously leads to public land and it's locked, I'm going to leave an empty box of fucks and a broken chain next to it (will still close it behind me though).
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Chesh said: ↑

^ Fact of the matter is, you have no idea who I am or the care I take when I'm on a trail, let alone what gates I'm talking about or the reasoning I use when deciding to open one up. Not that that ever stopped anyone (especially on this site) from getting up on their internet soap box to grace us all with their moral authority, but that's how it is. Most people get bothered when someone else thinks for themselves instead of lock stepping with the rest of the crowd. I get it. I truly do.

At any rate, stop and say "hi" if you ever see anyone in a Tacoma parked up top that mountain. Might just be me, and I've yet to have an unpleasant chat with a stranger up there yet.
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Sure thing, moo cow. The world needs your kind too, I guess.
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Chesh said: ↑

Works easy with moderation. You just don't get shit faced and also stop drinking a couple hours before heading back down.
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Chesh said: ↑

^ There's plenty of logic in his post, but the subject is quite a bit grayer than his simpleton's response, amounting more or less to putting his fingers in his ears and repeating himself. It would seem that in worlds like his, people are either exactly like him or they're out dumping toxic waste on the trails kicking puppies and I've just got no tolerance for that kind of stupidity. Get enough of that crap from the anti-gun people.

Yep, government locks that have no reason being there, but fuck all if there's a point making that clear to you given how "unlikely" you seem to think that is. That's why I said to stop and say hi, by the way. You get a different perspective on people when you actually meet them and have an actual conversation instead of just talking shit anonymously on the internet.
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How's this. This is the second time your postings have been brought to our attention. A lot of us here take the privilege we have to use the trails open to us and follow the tread lightly ethic, I for one fully support it. Not to mention it's illegal and goes against the Code of Conduct for TW. Considering your lack of discretion and consideration for others, including landowners I, and the other staff feel it's necessary we exercise our better discretion and remove you from the site.

greeneggsnspam · May 19, 2016

ForeRunner said: ↑

How's this. This is the second time your postings have been brought to our attention. A lot of us here take the privilege we have to use the trails open to us and follow the tread lightly ethic, I for one fully support it. Not to mention it's illegal and goes against the Code of Conduct for TW. Considering your lack of discretion and consideration for others, including landowners I, and the other staff feel it's necessary we exercise our better discretion and remove you from the site.
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Drainbung · May 19, 2016

Who saw that comin....

Speed Freek · May 19, 2016

I had a sneaking suspicion....

MadTaco461 · May 19, 2016

Yeah I'm like who this guy smacking off. We are pretty friendly in person in this area even people who thought I wasn't going to get along with. I wasn't going to talk to him. That was apparently the same as talking to a wall.

David K · May 20, 2016

Mcdees84 said: ↑

Cool. Thanks guys! I want to check it out soon.
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I posted some Google Earth views of the trail, we have called both "The Welk Run" (It is across I-15 from The Lawrence Welk Resort), and "The Drug Airport" when someone thought the one straight stretch up there looked like a runway for drug drop offs.

I have a least one good dent on the underside while wheeling up there. The Twin Oaks Valley access was well gated last time I tried, but the access from the left side of the cul-de-sac past the ARCO station worked.

Here are some photos after the satellite maps, reposted by imsikotic: https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/welks-run-drug-airport-saturday-7-apr-12.213618/

One of the videos (note I-15 way in the background):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygVn8Ys_gyM

Mcdees84 · May 20, 2016

David K said: ↑

I posted some Google Earth views of the trail, we have called both "The Welk Run" (It is across I-15 from The Lawrence Welk Resort), and "The Drug Airport" when someone thought the one straight stretch up there looked like a runway for drug drop offs.

I have a least one good dent on the underside while wheeling up there. The Twin Oaks Valley access was well gated last time I tried, but the access from the left side of the cul-de-sac past the ARCO station worked.

Here are some photos after the satellite maps, reposted by imsikotic: https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/welks-run-drug-airport-saturday-7-apr-12.213618/

One of the videos (note I-15 way in the background):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygVn8Ys_gyM
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Awesome! Thanks David. I'll go bump your other thread as well to see when we can set this up. I may be able to do an early run tomorrow morning or possibly Sunday afternoon. I'm tentatively set to go climbing next weekend, but otherwise I think I'm pretty open in the coming weeks.

Mcdees84 · May 20, 2016

ForeRunner said: ↑

How's this. This is the second time your postings have been brought to our attention. A lot of us here take the privilege we have to use the trails open to us and follow the tread lightly ethic, I for one fully support it. Not to mention it's illegal and goes against the Code of Conduct for TW. Considering your lack of discretion and consideration for others, including landowners I, and the other staff feel it's necessary we exercise our better discretion and remove you from the site.
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@ForeRunner and @MTgirl, not sure who reported him, but no complaints here.

Mcdees84 · May 20, 2016

MadTaco461 said: ↑

Yeah I'm like who this guy smacking off. We are pretty friendly in person in this area even people who thought I wasn't going to get along with. I wasn't going to talk to him. That was apparently the same as talking to a wall.
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He got perma banned for that. Good riddance I guess. Nice not getting to know him at all.

MadTaco461 · May 20, 2016

I didn't report him. I figured we could flush him out with stuff by jumping on another topic by having AZ guys post some funny memes.

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