Spacers and rubbing. Best trimming options.

Im so frustrated at this point... Ugh

Lift: 2.5" leveling it front
1.0" in the rear

Rims: 17"x8.5" 4.49 bs 19mm offset

Tires: Brand new 255/75/17 bfg km mud terrians.

Problem:
Just got the tires. Love them. Ordered a set of 1.5" wheel spacers with them. (i know the risks, so please dont chime in on that) hub centric and all.. Issue putting them on was 6 3/4-7 turn on the stud. Minimum requirements are 7. mounted the new tires and spacers at the same time. So i ran then for about 30 miles before taking them off due to insane death wobble. But after taking them off, the death wobble was still there. I had the front tires rebalanced and ended up diagnosing the wobble. It was the ET style lug nuts that were causing the wobble. Which is weird cause i ran that same lug on the slightly shorter and slightly skinnier used tires that came with the wheels for about 8 months. I always did have a tiny bit of wobble with it but it was manageable. So now i have the cone style low profile lug nuts. These lugs, without the spacers, only get 6 1/2 turns... So now im running around like that. Already had them torqued and they seem fine. Steering wobble is completely gone. So now im debating if i should try these spacers again with the new lug nuts... If i do, i will also be rubbing quite a bit. So i was also looking for info on that. Ill post some picks. Im rubbing on the cab mount bracket coming from the frame of the truck under the back side of the front wheel wells... But only at full turn. Also rubbing on tips of fenders on both sides and the inner plastic insert in the front of the wheel wells. Idk. I guess im just ranting. But im frustrated...

 

Preaching to the choir for a second.....;

First the spacers. I've been driving around with 1" wheel spacers for a year and a half. Never a sign of problems. Same with thousands of other people. So....Problem isn't the SPACERS, but the INSTALLATION of those spacers and/or wheels(Most likely the wheels by the sound of things) ....as a result of type of lug nuts being used. Are the WHEELS hub centric? Did you use the lug nuts supplied with the spacers to mount them to the truck? Are the lug nuts holding the wheel to the spacers the correct one's for that wheel? (as specified by wheel manufacturer) Non hub centric wheels will often do EXACTLY what you describe.

Aggressive mud tires have a tendency to point out the WORST in a truck. Your problem might have existed before, just not reared it's ugly head until these tires were introduced.

One of the key facts about 255/75/17 that make them attractive is their being a taller tire that DOESN'T rub and doesn't NEED wheel spacers. Once you include wheel spacers, these tires act like much wider tires when you make a full lock turn. The tire/wheel swings in a much wider arc WITH a spacer.....

Cab mount chop and trimming with dremel tool or sawzall.....Part of the plan.... OR take off the spacers.....

I run 265/75/16's and 1" spacers.....Tires are VERY close but don't rub. I'm about to install 285/75/16's and plan on doing a LOT of sawing.....

 

I do not know if the wheels are hub centric. When mounting the spacers to the hub, i used the supplied cone lug nuts that came with the spacers. Tightened them in the correct pattern. I was able to get 7 turns, the minimum requirement. When mounting the wheel to the spacer, i used the et style lugs that i had previously had on the the wheel. They seemed to mount fine, but again, after diagnosis, the ET style lugs were the cuplrit in the steereing wheel wobble. Maybe the wheels arent hub centric but the cone style lugs suck them down hub centric eliminating most of the wobble? I had a feeling the mud tires where doing exactly what you described, exaggerating an issue that was already there. With your spacers and wheels that you're running, are there any issues with the amount of turns on the stud with the lug? When mounting the wheel the factory hub using et style lugs, there is more than enough turns to meet the minimum requirements. But this set up has been causing the wobble. When using low profile cone style lugs from the wheel to the factory hub, i get about 6 1/2 turns. This route has seemed to eliminates steering wobble. But the amount of threads the lug gets on the stud here scares me. When mounting the spacer to the factory hub, i get exactly 7 turns with the supplied lugs. Which 7 is the minimum requirement. Still makes me nervous, but it is the legal minimum. When mounting the wheel to the spacers, the studs on the spacer are plenty long enough to use whatever lug. I have not tried running the spacers yet using the cone style lugs to mount the cv wheel to the spacer. If my problem really is in not having hub centric wheels, is there anything i can do besides new wheels?? ugh. And my only fix i think on the stud issue is arp studs...And they're at least 30 bucks for a 5 pack.

 

If the wheels AREN'T hub centric, no lug nut in existence will MAKE them hub centric.....

I know you want 7 full turns in a perfect world, but a 1/4 turn less isn't what is making the tires/wheels shake.

Without seeing them in person, I wouldn't even begin to suggest you have the wrong lug nuts, but, if I was a betting man, I'd bet a dollar they are wrong, AND that the wheels aren't hub centric. "Almost centered" isn't good enough. Lug centric wheels don't work on Toyota's 99% of the time. I'd start by checking with wheel manufacturer to find out if they are or aren't hub centric. THEN I'd check to see if you have the correct lug nuts.

 

So my wheels are not hub centric. I also saw that they make rings to make them hub centric. Center bore on my wheel is 108mm hub center bore 106mm. The second pic is the ET style lug that i ran first. They are garbage. The third pic is basically the same lug with the cone at the end to suck the wheel down center to the lug... Thats what took away most of my vibrations. I have so many damn sets of lugs its not even funny. The second two pics are google image and are similar to what it actually is. This first pic is my actual spacer.. I screwed on one of the lugs for you to see. These lugs seem to work fine for the spacer. But i cant use this style on my rim due to the hole being to small. Hence why im running the low profile lugs..

 

But still my biggest question is will the hub centric rings for these wheels help this problem?

 

Only way you'll know is to try 'em......