Dealer battery replacement issue

Hi all.

I am proactively replacing my 4 1/2 year old OE battery. I went to my dealer to get the same OE battery - part # 28800-0F020 - 710 CCA - 165 RC. Here in Canada they no longer replace with the same battery. They no use part # C0PBS-84270 - 840 CCA - 140 RC. No biggie, I took one home.

I measured the 2 batteries before starting the swap and saw the new one was taller than the old but I thought I would try it anyway. So I got the new one in but there is no way the tie-down will work because of the rear rod has no threaded adjustment and is too short ...frick ...

- Old - 7 7/8 high - 6 13/16 wide
- New - 8 1/8 high - 6 9/16 wide

The new battery is 1/4 inch taller, hense the tie down will not work as is.
The new is also narrower but that should be ok I guess ...
At least the 2 batteries are near the same length.

Has anyone encountered this issue ?
The rear rod is too short to try to make a lower hook.
I could use a round file to make the hole higher where the rear hook goes but that will be permanent.
I could drill the rear rod out of the holder if I can find a 3/16 threaded rod that I could bend a hook into and use a nut like is on the front rod now.
I could return the battery and get a different one from some other dealer.

I will be taking the holder into the dealer on Monday to see what their solution is but I would be more interested in hearing solutions on this forum.

Thanks
Ray

 

If it were me I would take it back where you bought it and try to get a battery that fits lwithout modifying your existing brackets. IIRC there are two sizes of battery depending on what trim package you have, some please chime in and correct me if I'm wrong, the sizes are 24F and 27F. Make sure you get a battery in that size.

 

1/4 " is a game changer?

When you say "tie down" - do you mean a rubber strap or a metal bracket and threaded rods?

 

IIRC the larger battery came with the Tow Package but I don't think it was 840cca.

I'd keep the 840 battery and have the dealer find me a longer rod for the tie down.

You could also buy a threaded rod from Home Depot and make your own.

 

I also think there are 2 different hold down brackets available, 1 was for the 24f and the other for the 27f.

 

Hi all. Thanks for the input.

The Toyota dealer no longer offers the same OE battery - only the Tundra replacement, so they don't offer the correct size. I have the tow package and the original is a group 27F.

Mine is a metal bracket with one threaded rod at the front (that will work with the taller battery) and a non threaded rod at the rear that is spot welded to the bracket (that is too short with the new battery). No it is not a game changer but the tie down will not work without modification and the point is, the new battery came straight from the Toyota dealer.

You are correct. The OE battery is a 710 CCA but the dealer only offers this Tundra 840 CCA as a replacement now.

My bracket fits good on the OE group 27 battery but not on the new, taller replacement.

As I stated in my first post :
I could use a round file to make the hole higher where the rear hook goes but that will be permanent.
I could drill the rear rod out of the holder if I can find a 3/16 threaded rod that I could bend a hook into and use a nut like is on the front rod now.
I could return the battery and get a different one from some other dealer.

When I go to the dealer tomorrow:
- maybe the tundra tie down will fit or I can mod it to work.
- I'm interested to see what the service people would do.
- if nothing else, I will let them know the situation so Toyota can change their replacement plan so this won't happen to others.

My main reason for this thread is to inform others of this issue and solutions from the regulars on this forum. I don't want to be the guy with the bungee holding the battery in place... I have no problem going to one of the plan B's and modding what is necessary but I want to get the dealer straight first.

Cheers
Ray

 

What? So Toyota dealers in Canada can pick and choose what parts they want to offer. What is the price difference of the battery? Wrong answer the battery is still available from Toyota if you would insist the need to get the correct battery.

I would probably be better just go to a parts store and get a battery with lifetime warranty and the correct size.

Just saying

 

You could buy a new hold down bolt and nut like on the front of yours, and trim it to fit the rear after removing the fixed length hook that is spot welded into the bar. This exactly what I did to install a taller group 31 battery.

 

Hi all. Thanks for your input guys.

No ... the new battery I purchased is the only part number available as a replacement for Tacoma's with the tow package.
I may choose the option of returning this battery to the dealer and going to a different supplier.

I saw your solution of getting a universal j-bolt kit from Walmart during my research hunt - looks good. Not sure if the Walmart here has such a thing but I may choose this route as well.

Cheers
Ray

 

You must have me confused with someone else, but yes, universal j-bolts are widely available. I bought the OEM j-bolt and nut like the front uses - they were dirt cheap from the dealer and the factory look appeals to my OCD.

That said, in your shoes I'd probably return the ill-fitting replacement and install another G27F.

 

Well, that is another possibility...
If the front J-bolt can be had for cheap I could use some nuts for spacers and make it work since it is too long for the rear.

Thanks
Ray

 

Hi all.

Went to the dealer today. They had 0 answers. No other battery to choose from - no J-bolts - nothing. They were not interested in fixing the system for the next guy either...OK...

Picked up a set of J-bolts from Napa - drilled the rear non-adjustable J-rod out of the OE bracket - cut a new J-bolt to length - installed the battery tie-down bracket - boom.

I re-used the OE J-bolt on the front and now, with the new J-bolt on the rear I will be good to go with batteries of various heights.

Thanks to everyone for your input

Cheers
Ray

 

Now that was the way to Nip in in the bud.

 

I've never bought a battery at a dealer. Do they offer great deals, stellar warranties or something?

 

I'm on my third OEM battery and prefer the peace of mind. The first 2 lasted just under 5 years each and were still covered under the prorated part of the warranty. That's about 2 years longer than any other battery (except Optima) that I've bought from parts stores.

My wife's previous Saturn went through 3 Duralast batts in 2 years in Colorado. Yes, they were replaced free under warranty but it was such a pita just to save $20 for a cheaper battery. Having her get stranded in the snow, finding someone to jump her or me taking off work, taking the battery out and up to AutoZone to have them "load test" it for a day each time, was just a hassle and waste of time for me. Diehard and Interstates lasted about 3 years but OEM have always lasted the longest for me.

 

Had the same issue with my new X2 (27F) battery. The OEM battery that came with my 2014 truck is not a true 27F height (it's shorter)
I've heard the dealer offers another tie down bracket, but I wasn't willing to spend the time chasing it down. So I drew a simple design and had a custom tie down made by a metal fabrication shop which included a mounting surface for my fuse block.

 

I was going to say, i just replaced the OE battery that died on me with a 24F (as 27F's are hard to find) and had no issues with the tiedown bracket. BUT like stated it sounds like the original 27F might be a smidge shorter than a standard one maybe.

 

Same story in October 2020.

Proactive change of the OEM battery (6 years old) for my 2015 TRD Sport led me to this issue.

The solution offered by the parts counter guys was to remove the original plastic tray, and install the battery without it. Hooks and crossbar fit, but very snugly against the top-rear edge of the battery.

Pics hopefully clarify the problem OP, myself, and others may have had.

 

Replaced my oem battery couple of weeks ago due to age not failure. Ordered a battery online from batteries plus, duracell 27F. Went to put it in and had the same problem you are having. Went round and round for a few with batteries plus because it was about a 1/4" taller and would not fit. Got a refund stoped on the way home, picked up a die hard silver. Case is the same size as oem, fit like a champ. Found it odd????

I like my truck oem and would have no issue coming up with a workaround to have made the duracell fit, just not going to do it.

 

I replaced my battery last year in a 27f to 27f swap. If I remember right, the new battery did not exactly fit, but by removing the whole clamp down system and first hooking the front (at least I think it was the front-non screw tie down) into the bracket and then hooking the thread rod into the rear slot I was able to gain enough length on the tie down rod that I was able to then torque down the nut holding the rear clamp. It took me a few minutes to figure it out, but it did work.

Also, just to be more exact, I believe it was the rear that holds the tie down nut and the front bolt just hooks into the bracket. So, if I am wrong on this, it is the reverse, but the principal of angling one side to lever the other is what is important