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Old Man Emu setups on 1st gens

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by kyle39, Feb 19, 2011.

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    Mine rubs too, haven't done anything about it though as it hasn't been a problem.
    You could make an extension for the arm off the drum to raise the cable if it really bothers you.
    http://www.bajataco.com/Brakes2.html
     
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    Thanks for the link
     
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    Steven at Wheelers Off-Road said the droop shouldn't be an issue. According to him, Toyota designed the system to have the shock be the limiting factor and NitroCharger takes that into account by installing a small bump stop inside their shock. I comfortable with his reply and I'm going to run it as it is now.
     
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    So I've been reading up in here and I'm a little confused. I have an 01 double cab and I'm buying a kit from headstrong off road. I heard that since I have a double cab I should go with the 882s since my cab is a little heavier. What coils do I get?
     
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    If you're planning on adding alot of weight up front, (>100lbs), I would run the 882's. I have a 03 double cab with 881's and love them. Only weight up front is going to be a trail gear lo profile bumper, something in the neighborhood of 50-75lbs.
     
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    So why is that? The 882s are the same spring rate as the 880 and 881 just longer. Wouldn't they just settle a little higher than the 881?
     
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    I ran 882's on a 99 ext cab 4WD years back with no added weight and had no issues at all. rode great. I vote go 882's with your D-cab
     
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    That's what I've been hearing. I'll probably going to go that direction
     
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    Also I'm not planning on doing any heavy wheeling (my trails are pretty tame) do I need to do a rear shock relocation like everyone on here is talking about? I'm also not doing Dakar springs. Just a Deaver AAL in the rear
     
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    No, relocating shocks is used when your shocks are limiting the potential of your springs. You won't have to worry about that.
     
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    WHen I ran my 882's, I didn't use Dakar's either. I used Wheelers 5 leaf replacement set. Gave about 1.5" in the rear and leveled out well with the front. I have pics if you care to see. just LMK
     
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    Yeah post them up!
     
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    The extra length of the 882's is to account for you putting on some weight up front, yet still maitain the 2.5ish in. of lift you would get from the 881's. If you don't add much to the front, I believe you will have slightly over 3" of lift, as opposed to the 2-2.5ish of the 881's

    I haven't run 882s personally, so take it with a grain of salt
     
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    I've always heard the 882s were for the extra weight of the cab and that the 883s were for extra weight like a bumper? And I'll be getting a bumper in the future I just don't want to cause damage before I can get said bumper
     
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    I have ran all three springs.
    I have listed the weights of the stock bumper and the weight of the bumper I replaced it with.
    My winch weighs around 50 lbs, I can't recall if that is listed in there or not.
    The double cab extra weight is not as much as you would think as it is also shared with the rear suspension. But it does add some, so must be taken into account. You're on your own there.
    Start here.
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/bretts-average-build-thread.305098/
    I apologize, the journey through the coils takes a few pages but there is some pertinent info in there.

    Also pay attention to the mention of the various top plate spacers, not to be confused with the leveling spacer that normally comes on the driver side coil.

    In the end, I am running 882's, no spacers, and the ride is good.
    I started with 881's, the addition of the aftermarket bumper was fine, no problems there.
    It was the addition of the winch that started to take a toll on the 881 coils.
    At the advice on here I went to 883's. Nice ride but too stiff in the flex department. Some however are running them and like them just fine.
    The 882's carry the same weight as the 883's but flex better, IE: you get full stuff up front. There are pics that demonstrate this.
     
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    The only damge you would have to be worried about would be to your CV's if your angle gets too steep. You can get a diff drop and those supposedly will help a bit.

    I know plenty of guys run 882s without any weight up front and have had nothing but good things to say.

    If your still unsure at all, I would call up Cruiser Outiftters. I ordered my whole OME setup from them and they asked me a bunch if questions regarding my usage and plans for the truck, then tailored it to fit my needs. Had it installed for a few months now with zero complaints
     
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    Great post. :thumbsup:

    I did quite a bit of research on this before making my spring selection. I was surprised at how little weight difference there is between the I4 and V6 (assuming this info is correct). All of the following weights are for 2001 4x4 models, and the info came from here. http://www.cars.com/toyota/tacoma/2001/specifications/ I'm also not sure if there would be a weight difference between AT vs MT models, but the site didn't allow for that.

    I4 Xcab - 3470 lbs

    V6 Xcab - 3515 lbs

    V6 DC - 3705 lbs
     
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    So I read through that post and I was sort of confused with all of them. So I want about 2.5 inches or 2.75 inches of lift on my double cab without a bumper on it right now. What coil do I get? I keep getting told 881s and then others turn around and say 882s forbsure
     
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    See I hear this a lot and makes me want the 882s haha. How expensive are cv's to replace? I'm not really in a place to be making massive repairs, especially not after buying this lift haha. But I will definitely be getting a diff drop kit with whatever I get
     
  20. Aug 31, 2016 at 12:30 PM
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    Nobody can give you this information due to all the different builds and vehicle setups.
    Plus very few 1st gens still maintain the actual stock height at this point, these trucks are between 15 and 20 years old now...meaning you may gain as much as 5" from where you are currently sitting with a new lift. Clear as mud?
    But if it helps...
    the 881's with the 1/2" top spacer will give the same lift as the 882's with no spacer.
    The difference is the 882's will hold any added weight better and maintain the height with an added bumper and winch.
    Top spacers might also give you a little mentioned phenomenon called "clunks over bumps" Basically a "topping out" of the front coils after going over speed bumps or something similar. This is also common with too high of a lift in the front regardless of top spacer.

    The front shock only has 5" of travel. You want to be somewhere in the middle of that, give or take.
     
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