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jberry's Retarded Desert Penguin

Discussion in '1st Gen. Builds (1995-2004)' started by jberry813, Feb 5, 2011.

  1. Aug 28, 2016 at 10:10 PM
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    Do you remember how much battery cable you used to get to where you mounted the battery?
     
  2. Aug 28, 2016 at 10:49 PM
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    scocar hypotenoper

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    Original? How many miles?
     
  3. Aug 29, 2016 at 7:29 AM
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    Whitecloud Cloudy-fabricator of things

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    Sorry buddy. That sucks.
     
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  4. Aug 29, 2016 at 8:07 AM
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    ...too much shit to list.
    No. And unless you route it the same way I did, it won't matter. Just run a tape measure down the path you plan and add a few feet extra.

    Yeah original. 80k

    Shit happens. Ordered a new LCE clutch and flywheel already. Hopefully I'll have it in before next weekend as long as work doesn't kill my nights and weekends.
     
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  5. Aug 29, 2016 at 9:56 AM
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    lotsoftoys pavement is boring....

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    bunch of crap
    Saweeetttt did u go the heavier flywheel or stock? I love my clutch from lce
     
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  6. Aug 29, 2016 at 10:36 AM
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    I did the 30 pound heavy. Heavier than stock, but not the monster 38 pounder. I'm only running 33's and just wanted a little more engine momentum when shifting in less than desirable places
     
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  7. Aug 29, 2016 at 10:42 AM
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    Let us know how it compares. I Almost got that one.
     
  8. Aug 29, 2016 at 3:33 PM
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    lotsoftoys pavement is boring....

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    You'll like it man. Did u do the dual compound disc too?
     
  9. Aug 31, 2016 at 8:34 PM
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    Hey J, How do I zero out my toe and ensure that both wherls are dead straight ? I know how to measure for toe but IE: both wheels can be a bit to the left and still have even toe creating a pull correct ? how do I zero toe to 90 degrees so I can then set it correctly ...hope that makes sense ?

    I've had 3 alignments since my LT kit install and everytime I get either a crooked wheel or a pull to the left. It is a shop that does it old school so I dont have any PC print outs. One thing I jave noticed is that OE 2nd gens always have 1/4" less tie rod threads showing on the drivers side because the rack is not centered but this guy keeps setting them even...
     
  10. Aug 31, 2016 at 8:52 PM
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    SconnieHailer PutterClutch

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    For a quick check you can pull a string from the back of your rear tire to the front of your front tire and see if it gaps at the back of your front tire or has to bend around it which will push it off the front of your rear tire. If that made any sense. That's just a quick check though
     
  11. Aug 31, 2016 at 9:09 PM
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    I cheat now. I bought a set of longacre toe plates. Once I get toe set to zero, if the steering wheel is off center, I adjust both tie rods equally (shrink the long side and extend the short side) until the steering wheel is centered and tape measures are equal.
    Also, it's best to have a tiny bit of toe in with our trucks (1/8" or less) for street driving. With RWD, the power comes from the rear and the front tires like to grab asphalt under load and the bushings deflect enough that the truck will toe out if it's set to exactly 0
     
  12. Aug 31, 2016 at 9:15 PM
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    Yeah...my front track width is wider so that will not work
     
  13. Aug 31, 2016 at 9:23 PM
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  14. Aug 31, 2016 at 9:27 PM
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    Ahh bummer, and I use the same toe plates Jason linked.
     
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    Wow, that's much less expensive than the kit that clamps onto your wheels. I'm doing the paint and nail scribe trick still.

    My concern with finding a true zero toe point is that for example both tires could be equally pointed left and your front of tire and back of tire measurements could be equal but still both actually pointed left correct ?

    Like this \-------\

    How do I get one ( drivers ) zeroed to this |-------\

    So I can end up like this |--------|

    And then set the 1/8" toe to this /------\

    Not sure if your remember this story but the day we finished building my links and new Solo kit someone ran a red light and hit me two blocks after the alignment shop ...I was on my way to DSM to get the nitro filled on all 4 corners FML grrrr. Pass side inner TR folded and steering rack blew out, ever since the inner and rack were replaced wheel has been off a bit to the right and truck fades left. Body shop checked frame and suspension and said everything was perfect...but the 3 alignment attempts ( paid for 1 and 2 warranty visits ) have been at this old school alignment shop called Trueline and they keep ignoring me when I tell them OE tacos do not have equal threads showing on the inner. He keeps painting my tires and scribing a line and measuring but leaves it with equal threads showing on both inners. OE there is a 1/4" difference from one side to the other. When I measured the toe when I got home it looks closer to 1/4" ( doing it alone is not super accurate ) of toe, equal threads on inner and wheel is still off to the right and truck fades to the left.

    Since these trucks always have less threads showing on the drivers side I am assuming my drivers side needs to be pulled in...but how do I know when I've hit that zero point ? Go measure / count threads on an OE second gen and duplicate it to find that " zero point " then set pass side to zero toe using paint / scribe / measure method and then set the 1/8" toe from there ?
     
  16. Sep 1, 2016 at 9:51 AM
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    Some comments inline in red above. There's no magic, it's a lot of trial and error (which is also why I bought the toe plates). Once the tires are zeroed (equal measurements front and back), I take a test drive. If the steering wheel is off-center, I center the steering wheel when I park, and adjust both tie rods to compensate for the \--------\. Meaning one side I would extend, and one side I would shrink, get it back to zero, and go for another test drive. If steering wheel is still off center, wash, rinse, repeat. I do this until I'm happy with the steering wheel alignment and the toe alignment is zero, and then toe them in a little bit.

    The toe plates are light years above doing the paint/scribe process I originally used. It's faster and can be done solo. The repetitive measure/adjust/test drive can be done in less than 5 minutes. Even if you had to do it 3 times, that's only 15 minutes out of your life.

    With regards to your accident/drivers side always showing less threads...are you sure the new steering rack was installed dead nuts centered? The steering shaft mounts to a gear on the rack with many teeth. Even off by 1 or 2 teeth would account for the difference in length of the tie rods. When I swapped my rack out, I duct taped my steering wheel to the dash (with it completely centered) so it didn't move at all, and manually rotated the gear on the rack left and right so i knew how many rotations in total it could cycle. Split the difference and installed it.
     
  17. Sep 1, 2016 at 12:14 PM
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    Good call on " cycling " the rack. I have removed the steering shaft from that gear a bunch of times and tried shifting a tooth left or right etc. I think I am going to pop it loose, remove both TRE's and check to make sure that the rack is in fact centered and then start the toe over.

    ...and in today's news I have discovered that my head gasket is toast so the truck is going into The Truck Shop Monday for that $1800 job FML. I had a small coolant overflow problem, no overheating just some pressurized overflow from the coolant resi. I did all the basic trouble shooting and today noticed a lot of air bubbles coming into the coolant resi = blown head gasket :annoyed:
     
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    4Running Daily Long Live ZS

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    Avoid the Truck Shop. They don't have the best history of engine work. Go to Service Pros in San Marcos.
     
  19. Sep 1, 2016 at 12:38 PM
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    I've always had good luck with James...Service Pro's this morning tried to talk me into a $4500 reman full motor replacement. They said the head would be too warped, valve seats toasted, pistons & rings would not hold up when the compression came back, it would eat oil etc etc ...he kept saying all of this even after I told him the truck had never actually overheated, never even run hot.
     
  20. Sep 1, 2016 at 12:43 PM
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    4Running Daily Long Live ZS

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    After blowing 3 sets of head gaskets (1 set every 15k miles), I paid Service Pros to motor swap. I trust his opinion.

    Best of luck!
     

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