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2.7 - other uses?

Discussion in '4 Cylinder' started by Lightsped, Jun 15, 2016.

  1. Sep 24, 2016 at 8:39 AM
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    TRDCal

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    Torque of the engine is irrelevant because gears can multiply torque. If you put a 2TR Tacoma powertrain in the 11000 lbs bus, something would explode lol. Obviously they gear it appropriately. It's not going to be a fast bus, but it'll move people around which is all you want. I'm sure the 2TR they use is a heavy duty version capable of high rpms for longer periods of time (like say cruising at 4000k rpm instead of 2000k) making it less efficient, which is why a diesel option would be better. I don't think a 2TR is the best option, but as far as it being possible, why not?
     
  2. Sep 25, 2016 at 6:18 PM
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  3. Sep 28, 2016 at 6:34 PM
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    I just watched a video of some foreign dudes set a 2tr in one of those buses. Had a flywheel on it so it had to be a manual trans. Probably slow as hell, but if you have 10-18 gears and don't have any hills to go up, I'd say it'd get the job done. Are any buses really that quick anyways?
     
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    My 89 pick-up (pre Tacoma) had the 22RE and man that thing was indestructible. At 350k miles it finally wore a lobe of the cam, this was the first time I'd had an issue with it other than a new clutch at 200k. Replaced the cam, timing chain and head gasket and drove it another 150k miles. Sold the truck in 2002 with just over 500k miles and still running strong.
     
  5. Sep 29, 2016 at 8:25 AM
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    You are making some unfounded assumptions.
    1) That they use a "heavy duty" version of the engine. Nope, its identical. That's why they call it the "2TR-FE", same engine from the same factory.
    2) That the powertrain is different (I assume you mean transmission). While the "bus" may have a different serial number, the transmission itself it plenty capable of dealing with the hard work. For example, the R452 transmission is very similar to the R150/155 used in the Tacoma, with some minor differences in the gear ratios. It is otherwise the same, and parts are even interchangeable.

    While yes they are likely to spin the engine a bit faster on a bus than a pickup, and yes, that makes it a touch less efficient, diesel wouldn't make any difference here, since they too would have to spin faster in a bus than a pickup.

    If you put the engine AND TRANSMISSION from a Tacoma into a BUS, and changed NOTHING besides the differential gear ratio, NOTHING would explode. Remember that the forces on the driveline are created by the ENGINE, and not the weight it is pulling.
     
  6. Sep 29, 2016 at 8:35 AM
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    It is used worldwide in the Hilux, Hiace, Land Cruiser Prado and a few other random models
     
  7. Sep 29, 2016 at 1:27 PM
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  9. Sep 30, 2016 at 6:09 AM
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    I wouldn't doubt it.
     
  10. Sep 30, 2016 at 2:36 PM
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  11. Oct 1, 2016 at 7:57 AM
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    Do you just like arguing or can you not see we are on the same side lol. I was agreeing with you that the engine could power a Coaster.

    I definitely made some assumptions, but to call them unfounded is a bit strong.
    1) You are saying every engine with the designation "2TR-FE" is the same. Lets break it down incase you didn't know 2 = Engine block generation TR = Engine family - F = Head is designed for economy E = Electronic fuel injection. There is plenty of room for variations between market and application while keeping the same designation. When they put Dual VVT-i on it they didn't change the engine name even though it is different. I didn't mean to imply that 2TR-FE in the Coaster is super heavy duty, I was merely speculating that it might have a different head gasket or maybe a bigger oil sump, an oil cooler etc, things that would help with longevity but not change the basic engine design and thus not change the engine designation.
    2) When I said powertrain, I meant transmission and rear end. The axle ratio is a big part of the equation.

    Diesel makes all the difference because they inherently make their power at lower rpms, where gasoline engines make them at higher rpms so you have to spin them faster to make the required power.

    You don't know me so I won't worry about this last one. When I finish a comment with lol its usually because I'm joking. I didn't mean to imply that the Taco powertrain would have a hollywood style explosion if put in a Coaster. I was merely saying that it wouldn't work. Realistically the clutch would be the weak point in that scenario.

    Anyways, that's my side of the argument, like it or not you'll have to find someone else to flash your keyboard penis too because that's not how I roll.

    Cheers bud :cheers:
     

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