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Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by CusterFan, Oct 25, 2016.

  1. Oct 25, 2016 at 4:44 PM
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    CusterFan

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  2. Oct 25, 2016 at 6:07 PM
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    This guy doesn't know what he talking about as Loctite 640 retaining compound is not cured by heat as it sets up by anaerobic cure just like all Loctite thread lockers and retaining compounds do, which means that they cure in the absence of air.

    A drain plug is not made out of some super duper steel, and if he new what he was doing he should have tried to get a reamer the correct size to finish the hole for the magnet so that it had about a .0002 to .0005 press fit and not relied on a retaining compound to hold the magnet in place, and I can't ever recall reading so much hype about freaking magnetic drain plug.
     
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  3. Oct 25, 2016 at 7:27 PM
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    Well sonny, whats it going to be? It's either made in the US or made in Japan. Can't be both in the same paragraph.
     
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    nothing new. some manufacturers have magnets in their drain plugs...and I've bought aftermarket ones from Skunk2 for my Integra
     
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    "I sourced the Genuine OEM “forged steel” USA made plug “rolled” instead of die cut threads."

    Every bolt on your Tacoma has rolled threads as do any bolt you buy at a bolt supplier or hardware store, as rolling threads is actually the preferred way to make small, medium and fairly large bolts as well as oil drain plugs, and trust me when I say that there are no drain plugs your going to find that have machined threads or die cut threads.

    Rolled threads are also stronger than machined or die cut threads due to how the grains of the material are worked and arraigned during the rolling process, and rolled thread tend to have less stress risers at the minor diameter of the threads compared to machined or die cut threads have, and the surface finish is also smoother than that of a machined or die cut thread thread.
     
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  6. Oct 26, 2016 at 8:02 AM
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    I got a question... what happens if that magnet falls off??


    Just purchase a drain plug & crush washer that is already magnetized from ..... wait for it.... Toyota.

    I think Camrey's have em and same size we use!
     
  7. Oct 26, 2016 at 8:07 AM
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    Magnetic drain plugs are appropriate in transmissions and differentials, where wear particles are expected and acceptable. It's why the OE puts them there.

    They don't put them in the oil pan because its not expected or acceptable.

    If you have magnetic particles in your oil, it's already too late.
     
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    Also I have seen cases where the magnet simply vanished from the plug ....
     
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    maybe he meant that the steel is USA made

    The bolt was created in Japan.
     
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    No china processed steel, formed and rolled in Japan, then the magnet gets attached here. :)
     
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    I have a magnet one in my Muscle car. Every oil change there's a little bit of metal crap stuck to it.
     
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    Someone explain why you would want a magnetic drain plug. If it's to catch metal pieces, wouldn't the oil filter do that? Is this another case of people can't just stand to have some extra money in their pocket?
     
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    Apparently not from what's on mine every oil change. I should take a pic next oil change. Small little shards of metal. Less and less now that the engine is well broken in, but the first couple oil changes there was plenty of crap stuck to the magnet.
     
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    If you didn't have a magnet, wouldn't those just flow to the filter and get caught there? Is the magnet catching metal that would be filtered out anyway?
     
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    I am no mechanic or hydraulic engineer, but the point of the magnet in the drain is to catch settling particles that are less likely to get pulled back into circulation quickly. Less circulation of metal particulates should mean less wear on mechanical friction points.
     
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    Don't know the answer to that for sure. They could just as easily end up traveling/scratching up valves/Pistons or clog something up.

    I do know that if you drop an oil pan on a vehicle with no issues you still find shards/metal particals in the pan. Which means they do travel around before/if they eventually end up caught by the oil filter.

    Seemed like an inexpensive way to ensure less crap floating around in the oil. The filter obviously doesn't catch everything.
     
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    I just went the the TOYOTA dealer and bought a ... wait for it.... magnetic oil drain plug from a Camery.

    It fits our rear diff... but has a round head with a 10mm hex fitting instead of a 24mm bolt head. So when it gets hit with rocks the bolt head wont get messed up or worse the bolt get loosened while off road and ruined diff.

    Here's a pic .... I think this cost me ~$4 and under $2 for the crush washer...

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    Here's what the OEM one looks like with metal crud stuck to the magnet.

    [​IMG]
     
  19. Oct 28, 2016 at 8:47 AM
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    Thanks for the info. I'd be curious to hear from a engine engineer(?) and get their opinion. It sure doesn't hurt to have a magnet, as long as the magnet does not come loose. I would think manufacturers would put those on at the factory, if it made much of a difference. Manufacturers do some stupid stuff sometimes. Especially to save a couple bucks. See the whole GM ignition fiasco.
     
  20. Oct 28, 2016 at 8:53 AM
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    I think every car or truck I ever owned had a magnetic drain plug cept this one.... Don't know why they didn't put one in our trucks its in other Toyota's.
     

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