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Sumo Springs for lifted applications

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by DriverSound, Nov 9, 2016.

  1. Nov 11, 2016 at 8:41 AM
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    My neighbor has a stock DC. I'm gonna measure the leaf to perch height but i think the correct application for the sumo springs is to contact the perch at all times unloaded. Also I think it's at 50% compression that the sumo springs are rated to provide the additional 1,000lbs capacity. Depending on the lift height and with overloads, might not get to compress them to that level.
     
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  2. Nov 11, 2016 at 5:26 PM
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  3. Nov 11, 2016 at 5:28 PM
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    One thing to consider with these as well is if you just raise them up, then your loosing upward suspension travel. going by what I've seen from other threads, ideally you'd want to increase the length of the spring instead of raising the base
     
  4. Nov 11, 2016 at 9:43 PM
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    That's what I was originally looking for, taller Sumo springs but I don't think raising the base an inch or so would hurt up travel as this material is rigid. I'm about 170lbs and stood on a sumo spring and I think it compressed 1/4".
     
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    Thanks for the link.

    After looking at the photos from @nevadabugle, it appears that during compression the spacers will limit the flex.
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    I was originally thinking of taller Sumo Springs when I reached out to their company for product advise. I'm currently awaiting a response from their engineer. I think with a 1.5"-2" of lift, an additional inch on the Sumo Springs should do the job or perhaps a trimmable option.
     
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  7. Nov 15, 2016 at 12:59 PM
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    Perhaps the mount could be cut up /drilled /tapped to allow the wings to fit between the ubolts?
     
  11. Nov 15, 2016 at 2:16 PM
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    Interesting. The Low Range kit is basically taller brackets that lifts the Sumo Springs up so it can allow for the flip. The sumo springs themselves are 5" in height. The bracket appears to be about 1.5" in height.

    Low Range.jpg
     
  12. Nov 15, 2016 at 2:17 PM
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    The only time I found the sumo's for about $150, the description said "solo" so I assume it's just one and not the pair.
     
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  13. Nov 15, 2016 at 2:17 PM
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    That is a smaller/shorter sumo spring to make up for the flip plate.
     
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    No it is for the pair., solo is just part of the name
     
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  15. Nov 15, 2016 at 2:19 PM
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    If that's the case, those are some expensive flip kit.
     
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    Yes at 360$ it is very expensive. you can piece it together for less by buying the Sumo at autoanything, and the flip plate from low range. not much less though.
     
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    I actually have a flip kit sitting in the garage. The flip kit mount can be modified by welding a platform between the ubolts that the sumo springs can bolt to.
     
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    Would be very interested in that if you move forward, do keep us posted
     
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