1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

IT BS thread

Discussion in 'Technology' started by chadderkdawg, Jan 16, 2012.

  1. Jan 18, 2017 at 9:39 PM
    #2521
    Cold Iron

    Cold Iron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2013
    Member:
    #112409
    Messages:
    5,978
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Mn.
    Vehicle:
    2013 AC T|X Baja
    Back when Macs ruled the demented world of education I almost went in that direction. Glad I didn't, of all the vertical markets working in the field the only one more screwed up would be manufacturing. I have done local machine mapping for user redirection at the published app level for load balancing on Citrix\RDP and also global user setting for more than 100k users. Kind of made me nervous when went to more than 50k users with Citrix Nfuse and asked them how does that work and they said let us know, no one had done it before. But been doing it since Citrix was OS2 so wasn't that worried. If your going to eat an elephant take big bites and put enough horsepower in front and back, just saying.

    Still requires a buy in for storage and upper level management. Can beg, borrow or steal but there is so only so much DASD available, and then on the SAN. Just saying no matter how much folder redirection you want to use the end users will use it. It isn't their fault it is the application bloat. Then again we have come a longways from pinning out for memory. I blame the programmers, if it is available or not they will use it LOL.
     
  2. Jan 18, 2017 at 10:30 PM
    #2522
    Razgriz

    Razgriz wtf am i reading

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2012
    Member:
    #86548
    Messages:
    1,186
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Matt
    San Jose, CA
    Vehicle:
    2013 White TRD 4x4
    It would be.. however the new boss likes to remove computers from the domain because it's hard for users to sign in... I don't get it either.
    But hey, end of this year is my 5 year and I'll be vested in the district. Then I'm out.
     
  3. Jan 19, 2017 at 12:08 AM
    #2523
    oni06

    oni06 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2016
    Member:
    #191029
    Messages:
    3,261
    Gender:
    Male
    Yeah I want to say that this is the stupidest shit I have ever heard but the truth is this is the second time I have heard this argument. Its even more stupid now then it was back in 1999.
    If I stretch my imagination I can see this up thru Windows XP where there was a drop down box to select the local machine or the domain(s). After that the OS started to default to use domain login (if joined to a domain) for any account with the exception of the username "Administrator" which it then assumed was the local account.

    It really concerns me that this line of thinking happens in Education. Even more so when I see my 3 year old take my wifes iPhone, enter her password (because she watched my wife enter it), find the app she wants (YouTube, Photos, Game, etc...) and then proceed to use the device.

    Hell even back in the late 90s when computer tech was newish to schools we talk elementary kids to enter their usernames and password to logon to Macs that were managed with "At Ease for Workgroups".



    I assume "Vested in the district" actually means vested in CalPERS?
    Most of my K-12 time was spent in Charter Schools so unfortunatly I only have 4.5 years in CalPERS. At some point I will need to go spend a year back at a Public job so I can get that last .5 of a year and get the money that has been and will continue to accumulate in my account. Unfortunately the CalPERS system like many public pension systems does not have enough money to cover what they owe people so it may be a moot point by the time I retire anyway.
     
  4. Jan 19, 2017 at 4:57 AM
    #2524
    js312

    js312 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2014
    Member:
    #128076
    Messages:
    5,657
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Joe
    New England
    Vehicle:
    23 F150 PowerBoost Lariat 502a
    Husky Weatherbeaters, OEM Mud Guards, Wheel Well Liners, Bullet Spray-In Bed Liner, Gator Soft Tri-Fold Cover, Hankook DynaPro AT2 (Summer), Blizzak DM-V2 (Winter)
    Nothing goes out that isn't joined to the domain here. The only time I'll deliberately disable a PC from AD that is still in service is if it changed hands without our knowledge. Disabling its computer account makes it find its way back to me pretty quickly.

    People don't understand that we have auditors who come in with an invoice full of serial numbers and ask us to find the devices listed. If we don't know where they are, it looks bad.
     
  5. Jan 19, 2017 at 8:17 AM
    #2525
    Razgriz

    Razgriz wtf am i reading

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2012
    Member:
    #86548
    Messages:
    1,186
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Matt
    San Jose, CA
    Vehicle:
    2013 White TRD 4x4
    Whoops, yeah vested in CalPERS! I hope there will be some left by the time I retire in ~40 years.
    So i work at the high school that i graduated at. An interesting shift in students is they have gone form tinkerers to users of technology. Their troubleshooting skills and understanding of what they are actually doing are generally non existent. Students will come into my office saying the computer is broken because they can not sign in. So i asked them, what did it say to make you think this? " It said my password was wrong" or "I didn't read what it said". If the latter I make them go back and come back and tell me what the error said before I will help them.


    I understand you completely. We have the same thing with auditors every two years.
     
  6. Jan 19, 2017 at 8:20 AM
    #2526
    ThunderOne

    ThunderOne Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2009
    Member:
    #17473
    Messages:
    10,021
    First Name:
    Mitchell
    Nashville
    Vehicle:
    1ST GEN OR GTFO
    Toyota NERD
  7. Jan 19, 2017 at 10:11 AM
    #2527
    js312

    js312 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2014
    Member:
    #128076
    Messages:
    5,657
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Joe
    New England
    Vehicle:
    23 F150 PowerBoost Lariat 502a
    Husky Weatherbeaters, OEM Mud Guards, Wheel Well Liners, Bullet Spray-In Bed Liner, Gator Soft Tri-Fold Cover, Hankook DynaPro AT2 (Summer), Blizzak DM-V2 (Winter)
    Toss the 5400 RPM drive and put in an SSD and that would probably make a pretty decent machine for the price. Actually, don't toss it. Take it out, buy a $10 enclosure and use it for your backups.

    Not sure how Acer's build quality is--we haven't had any of their stuff in a very long time. I'm a die-hard Lenovo laptop fan--I think they're head and shoulders above anyone else.
     
  8. Jan 19, 2017 at 10:23 AM
    #2528
    replica9000

    replica9000 Das ist no bueno

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2008
    Member:
    #5782
    Messages:
    16,266
    Lake Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg
    Vehicle:
    2019 T4R ORP
    When I bought my Lenovo Yoga 11, I bought a 256gb SSD, and put the 500gb HDD in my PS3, which was a good upgrade from the 60gb.

    I swapped an Asus laptop for a Thinkpad because the Asus laptop felt flimsy.
     
  9. Jan 19, 2017 at 10:28 AM
    #2529
    ThunderOne

    ThunderOne Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2009
    Member:
    #17473
    Messages:
    10,021
    First Name:
    Mitchell
    Nashville
    Vehicle:
    1ST GEN OR GTFO
    Toyota NERD
    Unfortunately I need more storage and at a cost effective price. Laptop only gets used for internet browsing, and music/dash cam footage storage.
    My 7 year old Toshiba satellite takes about 15 minutes to boot up and is nearly full (dash cam records at 1080p), and it literally cannot play YouTube videos greater than 720p


    Oh and the lack of USB 3.0 is pretty annoying
     
  10. Jan 19, 2017 at 10:29 AM
    #2530
    js312

    js312 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2014
    Member:
    #128076
    Messages:
    5,657
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Joe
    New England
    Vehicle:
    23 F150 PowerBoost Lariat 502a
    Husky Weatherbeaters, OEM Mud Guards, Wheel Well Liners, Bullet Spray-In Bed Liner, Gator Soft Tri-Fold Cover, Hankook DynaPro AT2 (Summer), Blizzak DM-V2 (Winter)
    I want one of these pretty badly: http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/x-series/x1-carbon/

    Why in the world would anyone buy a MacBook when that exists? It's better in every way.
     
  11. Jan 19, 2017 at 10:30 AM
    #2531
    js312

    js312 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2014
    Member:
    #128076
    Messages:
    5,657
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Joe
    New England
    Vehicle:
    23 F150 PowerBoost Lariat 502a
    Husky Weatherbeaters, OEM Mud Guards, Wheel Well Liners, Bullet Spray-In Bed Liner, Gator Soft Tri-Fold Cover, Hankook DynaPro AT2 (Summer), Blizzak DM-V2 (Winter)
    The 5400 RPM drive is the bottleneck. It'll work, but I'd look for a 7200 at a minimum.
     
  12. Jan 19, 2017 at 10:31 AM
    #2532
    ThunderOne

    ThunderOne Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2009
    Member:
    #17473
    Messages:
    10,021
    First Name:
    Mitchell
    Nashville
    Vehicle:
    1ST GEN OR GTFO
    Toyota NERD
    Yeah I was wondering about that, but for $350 I figured that 1TB HD would have to be a basic setup to make the whole thing that cheap.

    My current laptop is also 5400rpm... so would it still be just as slow? I'm guessing that adding more RAM into the new laptop wouldn't make a difference?
     
    Last edited: Jan 19, 2017
  13. Jan 19, 2017 at 10:45 AM
    #2533
    oni06

    oni06 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2016
    Member:
    #191029
    Messages:
    3,261
    Gender:
    Male
  14. Jan 19, 2017 at 10:52 AM
    #2534
    replica9000

    replica9000 Das ist no bueno

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2008
    Member:
    #5782
    Messages:
    16,266
    Lake Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg
    Vehicle:
    2019 T4R ORP
    My Thinkpad cost $800. The X1 is like $2K+. For an extra $300, i can match the ram and ssd of the X1, and a i7-6600U doesn't seem that much better than the i5-6200U that I have. But that extra cost is the carbon fiber and the extra software I bet.
     
  15. Jan 19, 2017 at 11:47 AM
    #2535
    js312

    js312 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2014
    Member:
    #128076
    Messages:
    5,657
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Joe
    New England
    Vehicle:
    23 F150 PowerBoost Lariat 502a
    Husky Weatherbeaters, OEM Mud Guards, Wheel Well Liners, Bullet Spray-In Bed Liner, Gator Soft Tri-Fold Cover, Hankook DynaPro AT2 (Summer), Blizzak DM-V2 (Winter)
    The last generation was listed at about $1400-$1500 (but I see them now for $1200) for an i5-6200u, 8 GB of RAM, and a 256 GB SSD. For something that thin/light/durable I don't think that's bad. A comparable MacBook Pro is a few hundred more, and then you have to deal with the awfulness of MacOS.
     
  16. Jan 19, 2017 at 11:54 AM
    #2536
    replica9000

    replica9000 Das ist no bueno

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2008
    Member:
    #5782
    Messages:
    16,266
    Lake Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg
    Vehicle:
    2019 T4R ORP
    Looks like best buy has a $1400 X1 and a $2000 X1. I tried out osx for a bit. I could never get into it. It did run smoothly for the hardware it was on thought (G4 tower)
     
  17. Jan 20, 2017 at 7:16 AM
    #2537
    js312

    js312 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2014
    Member:
    #128076
    Messages:
    5,657
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Joe
    New England
    Vehicle:
    23 F150 PowerBoost Lariat 502a
    Husky Weatherbeaters, OEM Mud Guards, Wheel Well Liners, Bullet Spray-In Bed Liner, Gator Soft Tri-Fold Cover, Hankook DynaPro AT2 (Summer), Blizzak DM-V2 (Winter)
    I have a few MacBook Airs at work (we don't use Macs, but we do have iPads and in the past the only way to manage them was with Configurator which had no Windows version available). They have the latest version of OSX on them and I feel like it's a constant game of hide and seek. I don't like the fact that you need to hold a button to get a context menu instead of just right-clicking. A lot of it is so counter-intuitive to me. I've dragged and dropped things before only to have the original literally disappear in a puff of smoke and then I have no copy of the file or shortcut.
     
  18. Jan 20, 2017 at 7:23 AM
    #2538
    kirkofwimbo

    kirkofwimbo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2010
    Member:
    #40338
    Messages:
    2,056
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Clayton
    Wimberley, TX
    Vehicle:
    ‘21 Tundra SR 4x4
    My MBP has right click :notsure:
     
  19. Jan 20, 2017 at 7:33 AM
    #2539
    js312

    js312 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2014
    Member:
    #128076
    Messages:
    5,657
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Joe
    New England
    Vehicle:
    23 F150 PowerBoost Lariat 502a
    Husky Weatherbeaters, OEM Mud Guards, Wheel Well Liners, Bullet Spray-In Bed Liner, Gator Soft Tri-Fold Cover, Hankook DynaPro AT2 (Summer), Blizzak DM-V2 (Winter)
    The Airs that I have don't seem to. You need to hold Control and click to get a context menu.

    Maybe they've realized how idiotic that is and added it to their newer models, though. These are probably pushing five years old.
     
  20. Jan 20, 2017 at 7:34 AM
    #2540
    replica9000

    replica9000 Das ist no bueno

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2008
    Member:
    #5782
    Messages:
    16,266
    Lake Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg
    Vehicle:
    2019 T4R ORP
    I remember when you had to drag the floppy disk to the trash can to eject it. As a (then) Windows user, I was never comfortable doing it.
     

Products Discussed in

To Top