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3rd Gen. Ultimate Halogen Headlight/Foglight Upgrade (not LED or HID)

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Glenn_R, Feb 11, 2017.

  1. Feb 11, 2017 at 9:07 PM
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    Glenn_R

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    First off let me thank @crashnburn80 for his great idea and help.
    After posting in his thread he asked me to make a new thread for the 3rd Gens so it would be easer to find. @crashnburn80 started all this for the 2nd Gen's. He has much more detail and testing in the below threads. The below thread explains in detail the basics of why this works so well. But as it uses the H4 bulb does not apply to the 3rd Gen. I have just adapted his idea into my truck.

    2nd Gen The ultimate headlight upgrade (not LED or HID)

    He then did a right up on the upgrading the foglight and this does apply as it uses the same H11 bulb as both the foglight and low beam in the 3rd Gen.

    2nd Gen The ultimate foglight upgrade (not LED or HID)

    The premise is this (Quoted from Crashnbunr80's threads):
    "Rather than trying to change the technology that is used by the halogen reflector headlights (like improperly stuffing HID or LED bulbs in a reflector lens designed specifically for halogen bulbs), I just improved on the same technology by cranking up the power, adding some new school tricks to old school tech, and improved the efficiency while selecting better looking OEM parts."

    "The recipe is the same. Turn up the power up to 11, drop the resistance to increase effective voltage to the bulb resulting in greater light output and use superior quality halogen bulbs and components, while maintaining proper beam cut offs and fullness of the beam pattern. This mean significantly more light output without glare to oncoming drivers.
    This upgrade results in a measured 2x improvement over stock."

    You will need to either build your own upgrade harness or purchase one. It needs to be 12 gauge to the bulbs. There are several links to places to purchase the harness in the above links. I built my own harness and ordered the connectors form
    Superlumination.

    H11 Ceramic female 2 for each set of lights
    H11 plastic male 2 for each set of lights

    For the bulbs I use what he recommend and purchased them from Ebay

    German made Flösser 90w H11s


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    Stole from crashnburn80, Stock left, Ultimate right
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    What I did:
    I already had the busman 10 circuit added to my truck (built using this thread). It is wired with 4 Awg though an 80amp breaker directly from the battery. So I decided to use one of the relays for the head lights and one for the fogs. Each circuit has 10 gauge wire out so I used that for a short 18" run and then split off to two 12 gauge runs to each head light. This should have less than 1% voltage drop.
    IMG_3686.jpg Harness that runs from the busman to the two headlights and also has the trigger wire from the left side OEM connector. The white 18 gauge wire provides 12 VDC to the busman relay from the OEM connector. I used a second male plug with green plugs installed on the right side to protect the OEM headlight connector from water and corrosion.
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    Here is the new harness next to the busman connector.
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    Used to protect the disconnected passenger side OEM connector.
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    I routed the wiring harness around the left side with the other factory wiring to the left headlight area. Zipped tied in a couple of place. pluged in the trigger wire to the OEM connector and the 12 gauge connector to the H11 bulb. I then removed the black cover on top of the radiator by removing the 7 push pins. If you notice in the picture one of the push pins is now missing as I dropped it and never could find it.
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    Just new wiring hooked up on left side OEM on the right.
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    Wiring and new bulb on left side
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    Both with wiring and new bulbs
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    This is still in work, I will post better pictures to show before and after. My driveway is short and I live on busy street. I have also done the foglight and will post that also.
     
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  2. Feb 11, 2017 at 9:23 PM
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    Nice write up. Smart running it through an external relay. Good output for halogens, but IMO the "ultimate headlight" would be a properly tuned and high quality projector(the stock one is you Achilles heel).
    Although, This will do donkey.
     
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  3. Feb 11, 2017 at 9:35 PM
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    Nice! Looking forward to more output pics. I'll add a link for 3rd gens to this thread from the H11 foglight thread.
     
  4. Feb 11, 2017 at 9:42 PM
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    Very cool, How would these bulbs stand up to Sylvania SilverStar Ultra H11 bulbs?
     
  5. Feb 11, 2017 at 9:45 PM
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    Over 2x brighter than Silverstar Ultras. Not even in the same ballpark of comparable.
     
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    throw a luxmeter on those bad boys!
     
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    90w bulbs, hope you don't do a lot of night driving cause I'm sure they will burn out quickly...
     
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    I do do a lot of night driving that is why I did this. I bought spares and was willing to make the bulb life sacrifice for 2x the light without the HID/LED issues.
     
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    Curious why you have such a hatred towards leds? Leds will outlast halogen bulbs all day every day. Like I've been running Morimoto XB LED Fogs for almost a year now, their a direct plug and play and way nicer than the OEM halogen bulbs! Backed by a 10 year warranty that The Retrofit Source stands behind 100% with their warranty's!

    https://www.theretrofitsource.com/complete-housings/fog-lights/toyota-oval-morimoto-xb-led.html

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    No hatred at all except when the LED or HID blows out the cutoff. Use a lux meter on your LEDs and come back and report your numbers. Here are the numbers for these bulbs. I will get better pictures for this setup soon. From looking at your pictures I would say this bulb puts out twice the light and is better focused by the projector.
     
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    "HID Blows out the cutoff".
    WUT
    [​IMG]
     
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    Not to be a naysayer... I have LED fogs 2x the output and .... OEM Yota parts from a different platform plug n play, run em all day and night along with my LED headlights with no problems... Not sure why the bashing on LED tech. Just sayin....
     
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  15. Feb 12, 2017 at 8:29 AM
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    I said when they do, not all do and I have run HIDs on other vehicles. I saw your post in another thread and it looks like your HIDs don't blow out the cut off.
     
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    I don't have the specs for the Flossers, but the similar H11 Optilux high wattage bulbs are rated at 500 hours. The H11 is a long life bulb, compared to those that run H9s for low beam rated at 250 hours. Us earlier Gens running the setup with high wattage H4s have a 200 hour life span.

    The Morimotos are a good product as the lens assembly is specifically designed from the beginning for LEDs. The output is rated at 20-30% more than stock, not 2x, however their beam pattern is much more focused than the factory fogs.

    Yep, cut offs are not an issue in a projector light assembly.
     
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    Relax... the thread title suggests your setup is the "ultimate" which I'm not really in alignment with. Good on ya for coming up with a solution that works for those high output bulbs as a suggested 19th century invention to replace 21st century innovation... wait.... what did I just say?
     
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    Ultimate was my thread title for reflector technology based headlights. There are certainly more options in projector based headlights.
     
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    How about the temperature using those 85w bulbs?
    Currently I'm using h9 on my low and it's great ( I don't do much night drive) it's impressive how much output you can get from an h11 to a h9 BUT now I see this 85w and i am like wtf! This must be bright like a stadium!!
     
  20. Feb 12, 2017 at 8:46 AM
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    OK Gotcha.. :thumbsup:
     

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