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3rd Gen 6112's In Stock and Ready to Ship

Discussion in 'HeadStrong Off-Road' started by HeadStrong Off-Road, Feb 15, 2017.

  1. Feb 15, 2017 at 4:32 PM
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    We received our first batch of the 3rd Gen specific Bilstein 6112's. Here are the comparative differences from the 05-15 (2nd gen) Tacomas and the 2016+ (3rd gen) Tacoma.

    The part # for the 2016+ Toyota Tacoma 6112's adjustable front strut/coil combo is 47-234413
    The part# for the 2005-2015 Toyota Tacoma 6112's adjustable front strut/coil combo is 46-241627

    From the testing we have done here the valving seems to be pretty close to the same.

    The coil spring that comes with both is also the same. It is a 14" 600lb coil spring in black.

    From the initial measurements taken the 2nd gen 6112 strut appears to have an extended length of 1/8" more then that of the 3rd gen 6112 strut.

    Comparatively the two are very close to being the exact same shock, with the exception of the design difference noted below. Really the only notable difference seems to be the notch settings.

    The 2nd gen 6112's call out for these notch settings:
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    The 3rd gen chart is broken down further to accommodate for the various trims. Plus they call out for different setting on the drivers and passengers sides to help accommodate for the lean you typically see when switching from factory to aftermarket coils. This can eliminate the need from the 1/4" top plate spacer usually need with these. However some may choose to still set the clips on the same settings and run the spacer for the lean.

    IMG.jpg

    Something to also note, is the shocks and coils are not left/right side specific on either the 2nd or 3rd gen 6112's. It won't matter which side you put either of them on or how they are paired together.

    There are no caveat's with either of the 6112's as far as the installation instructions go everything is pretty straight forward. For example, there are no bump stop spacers like the 3rd gen 5100's.

    We do have these currently in stock and ready to ship out. Here is a link to them on our website and if you have any questions please feel free to contact me.

    http://www.headstrongoffroad.com/store/p455/Bilstein_6112_Coil_and_Strut_Combo_-_47-234413.html

    Here is a picture of them for you to check out....Here you can see that the end portion of the shock body does have a different design on the 3rd gen (below) then the 2nd gen (above).

    DSC_0204.jpg

    Thank you so much TW and have a wonderful day!
     
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  2. Feb 20, 2017 at 12:13 AM
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    Is the base just a different body design or do these have a different bottoming cone set up??

    How do you know these have the same valving?
     
  3. Feb 20, 2017 at 12:32 PM
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    I am not sure if there is a difference in design internally with the change to the lower shock body, we would have to pull the shock apart to see. When I get a chance I'll contact Bilstein to get clarification on this.

    We can't say the valving is the same (edit made to OP), but we can say its not substantially different. I'd have to talk to Robert, but he has access to a heavy duty pull tester (he calls it an Instron???) in which he can measure both the resistance during compression and rebound at a given speed. Its not an official test method that produces data we can officially publish, but it gives us a general understanding of how valving may compare from one shock to another.
     
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  4. Mar 3, 2017 at 12:30 PM
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    what rear shock would you pair these with? can you set the notches at the 6th position and a 1/2 spacer on the driverside and a 1/4 spacer on the passenger side to get more lift and to help with the lean?
     
  5. Mar 3, 2017 at 1:15 PM
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    You don't have to run any rear shock if you don't want to and it depends on what rear lift, if any, you plan on running. The Bilstein 5160's are a nice pairing but some people stick with the standard 5100's.

    Depending on the trim of the truck you can go up to the 6th notch setting. I haven't had anyone run the 1/2" and 1/4" spacers with this configuration and this is not something that we have tested. You can try to configure it in other ways, if you want, but you would just have to make sure all other components are in proper working order.
     
  6. Mar 3, 2017 at 2:11 PM
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    oh i c. wanted like closer to around 3" of lift. its a 4x4 double cab long bed. was gonna go with dakar leafs for the rear.
     
  7. Mar 3, 2017 at 2:42 PM
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    It can be a little harder to get to the full 3" over stock with this set up.
     
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    will the top spacers help it get closer?
     
  9. Mar 3, 2017 at 4:24 PM
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    You could. I would just check out all of the angles to make sure everything is in proper working order.
     
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    Wouldn't setting the left and right at diffrent setting affect how the truck drives because of the diffrent preloads.? Or am I over thinking this.
     
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    The difference in the notch settings are pretty minimal so it shouldn't affect it much but in my experience it really comes down to how discerning you are as to if you notice these minor differences.
     
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    Good to know, thanks HS
     
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    Hey I got another question for you, if you got the time. It's about 5100. So i understand from reading toyotec post about lifting 3rd Gen not use em with ome coils 884 etc, because they will sag, however 2nd Gen guys run em with stick coils and get 1.75 lift no problem. So couldnt i use my stock coils and 5100 to get a mild lift without the sag. Now if I wanted to raise my front by 1" that means I would need to set the 5100 at 2", due our gen being taller from factory, so would this work. And for the rear, the 5100 are ment to work with 1-3 inch lift, but again our trucks are 1" taller so could I swap out those and run them on rear with out issue. Sorry for the ramble hope all that made sence. Trying to level the truck without using a spacer upront, but also improve ride on/offroad, with out going for a full lift.

    Edit: just found another thread about 3rd Gen bilstien for the 3rd gens. Pretty much sums all my questions
     
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    Well let me know if you have any other questions.
     
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    2 questions...
    What setting on the 6112 just to level it out?
    Also, I'm assuming these are a much simpler install than the 5100s because the spring is included? Just Jack up the truck and swap?
     
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    It is really difficult to guarantee a particular stance since so many variables can come into play. In order to try to get the best results possible, I recommend measuring your current rake (from the center of the hub to the bottom of your fender on all 4 corners) to see exactly how much higher you sit in the back as opposed to the front. This way you will know about how high you will need to go in the front and/or rear to get you near the stance you are shooting for. Measurements should be taken on level ground in order to be as close to accurate as possible. For example say your measurements come out to 21 in the back and 20 in the front and you want to go up around 2.5” in the front this is how you would figure it.

    Front 20” + 2.5” (or whatever lift you are shooting for) = 22.5”

    Now subtract the Rear measurements which in this mock case is 21”

    And you get 1.5” which is the approximate height you would need to go up in the rear to be near level.

    Well yes and no. If you source the coils from us for use with the 5100's then we can assemble those as well which would cut down on installation times. But if you use your factory springs or you choose not to the get the 6112's assembled then you are going to have to use a spring compressor on either unit.

    NOTE:
    If you select the strut and coil assembly option then it comes as one complete bolt on unit with new coil isolator, upper and lower bushings/washers, and strut mount. Otherwise you would have to source those parts separately or retain them from your factory suspension. You would also need to have a spring compressor available to take the tension off of the coil springs for disassembly and assembly.

    Please let me know if there is anything else that I can assist you with.

    Thank you so much.
     
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    I really appreciate your time! I'll be buying from you when I'm ready!
     
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    Well thank you for that. If you have any other questions feel free to contact me and I will see what I can do to help you out. :D
     
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    Can you use 6112 from a 2015 on a 2017?
     
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