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Dual Battery Setups! Let's see them! Multiple Batteries Thread!

Discussion in 'Technical Chat' started by MJonaGS32, Sep 20, 2013.

  1. Feb 15, 2017 at 7:38 AM
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    twhalm

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    I just completed my "budget" dual battery setup.


    I fit a 24M Deep Cycle battery in my 2015 TRD OR, which was a massive ordeal. I made a custom battery tray and had to move the exhaust pump a couple inches to fit. I have a 200A isolator wired to a dash switch that lets me choose between auto, off, and self-jump settings. I put in two fuse boxes, one for the front and I wired one to the rear as I have a sleeping platform back there.

    Things I learned while doing this:

    -CrimpSupply on Amazon is GREAT place to get good cable at a good price. No where else had pure copper cable for such a good price and they threw in lugs to boot.
    -Watch out for CCA cable. People use this cable for audio setups and it is not as good of a conductor as pure copper so 4 or 2 AWG CCA will not perform as well as pure copper of the same gauge.
    -I got OLS 6-way fuse boxes over Blue Sea varieties to save some cash. These work, BUT they do not isolate your system when a fuse blows unless you rip out the shitty LED system (really easy to do).
    -There are a lot of places to ground things so don't worry too much about having a fuse box with a ground bus.
    -It takes a lot more cable than you think to reach the bed from the engine bay.
    -Wiring switches to the center dash is a huge PITA
     
  2. Feb 15, 2017 at 11:16 PM
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  3. Feb 19, 2017 at 6:21 PM
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    motor-vater

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    This is a pretty slick set up, I am thinking about going this route on my 3rd gen TRD Offroad. I know the split system is the way but I can not justify the added expense so long as this works. How was the install? any need to relocate anything?
     
  4. Feb 23, 2017 at 8:04 PM
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    Is it possible to fit side by side batteries in the TRD OR (16)? I've only seen that configuration in the Sport.
     
  5. Feb 24, 2017 at 6:50 AM
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    Should be able to. You only usually see this configuration on the sports because it's their only option. The OR's can put a spare in the passenger rear corner, but do to the ABS module in the Sports they can't.
     
  6. Feb 24, 2017 at 5:02 PM
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    By placing it in the passenger corner you can also get a larger battery in there.
     
  7. Mar 1, 2017 at 9:46 AM
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    bilplat

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    Anybody rewire the bed outlet to be powered by their aux battery instead of their main?
     
  8. Mar 1, 2017 at 9:46 AM
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    twhalm

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    I want to know this too. Any insight would be great.
     
  9. Mar 1, 2017 at 10:01 AM
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    DaveInDenver

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    I looked at it a little.

    On my truck the bed-mounted 115V outlet is powered from an inverter under the center console. That's fed by a 100A circuit from under the hood, which is a fuse in the main fuse box and a relay in a little box on the side. It would seem to be easiest to take the feed from the 100A fuse in the main box and re-route it to a 100A fuse right on the battery you want to use.

    But I never pursued it any further because it seemed like more trouble than it was worth for a 400W inverter that would still be controlled by the truck to be 100W when idling and shut off with the key. So I figured that if I ever needed to install an inverter I'd just wire a stand-alone one in that was just on/off and had a little more power. Even 400W isn't all that much. And I'd kind if like to take the factory inverter out anyway to make room for a larger center console anyway.
     
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  10. Mar 1, 2017 at 10:04 AM
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    I know there are ways to make it always 400W

    See here: https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/how-to-ac-outlet-in-cab-400-watt-anytime-mod.322320/

    So a combination of wiring to that fuse and the 400W anytime mod looks like the solution.
     
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  11. Mar 1, 2017 at 10:15 AM
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    It does look possible and I know there are ways to bypass the low engine RPM nanny. It's still only on with the key. Like I say, 400W is just not of much use to me since anything that would run there I already have running on 12V and anything larger (power tools specifically) need a lot more power. So just not something I bothered pursuing since I plan to either remove or replace the whole thing anyway.
     
  12. Mar 1, 2017 at 11:10 AM
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    These are my biggest concerns. I'm thinking ideally, I'll get a much larger inverter (in the 3KW range methinks) and mount that in the bed (or maybe just rewire the existing bed outlet to run off the new inverter). When I need power for camping or working out of my truck I can use clamp cables to attach the inverter to the aux battery. Car isn't on and I don't drain starter battery. I'll still need a relay to charge aux battery.
     
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  13. Mar 1, 2017 at 11:18 AM
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    3kW is quite a ton... You'll need to have a huge battery for that. If you are actually using 3kW you'll be drawing 250 amps from the batter and you'll drain your pack in minutes.
     
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  14. Mar 1, 2017 at 11:28 AM
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    Just spitballing now. I'd rather have too much capacity than too little. And no way I'll actually be using 3kW for any prolonged amount of time. Definitely will go with a oversized deep-cycle battery. Might end up just continuing with a generator, but the idea of an aux battery solution that can also be used for light camping (read: glamping) applications (and jump-starting) is enticing.
     
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  15. Mar 1, 2017 at 11:33 AM
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    I gotcha. For my needs (charging devices and such) 400 watts is enough, but to each their own.
     
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  16. Mar 1, 2017 at 2:07 PM
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    And don't forget that 3kW/250A would mean huge cables on the 12V side to feed it. I was thinking more like ~1kW for an inverter so I could run smaller power tools if I had to. And @twhalm is right, running this much is not a prolonged affair, at 3kW you're fully draining a group 27 deep cycle in about 20 minutes.
     
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  17. Mar 1, 2017 at 8:19 PM
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    MJonaGS32

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    Yea too much work for that 400W inverter in the bed. I ended up adding a 750W inverter in the cab (hooked up to the 2nd battery) with outlets in the front and rear of the center console.

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    (old pic. added a usb charger back there too)
     
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  18. Mar 5, 2017 at 10:48 PM
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    Just curious if there was any use (without OEM inverter) of the pin plug under console?

    Note: I have now seen one banned OP and a "Delete" OP in two days of looking into Tacoma inverters?
     
  19. Mar 6, 2017 at 10:17 PM
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    Please share more photos and the circuit diagram
     

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