Low profile winch bumper? Wtf

For using the D-Ring as a lift point:

http://jeepsneeds.com/products/d-lift-adaptor-hi-lift

 

I was considering something like this.

http://www.hiddenwinchmounts.com/welcome-to-undercover-hidden-winch-mount-systems/

 

See my build thread...page 8 or 9 I believe. Also look up the stingray bumper on the vendor page for @RelentlessFab

 

That's awesome, definitely what I would do!

 

That is a fact!

 

They look great on the third gens that have that fugly lower lip/under bite thing going on.

 

Have your own design made if nobody else has a clue.

 

This is whole lot less sketchy than how it was shown earlier in the thread.

My old ARB was the original style, which was more slim. Part of the reason for that was air bags and crumple zones. My old truck didn't have any of that, so the ARB was just a steel bumper bolted on. Now they have a sub frame you put on first that is supposed to help mimic the profile of the stock bumper so the air bags deploy in the same way. I dunno, I don't see how but OK.

Anyway, that old bumper had a Hi-Lift adapter you used instead of including the slots like they do now. Very positive interface between the jack and truck. You had to watch that the base of the jack didn't slip but there was no worry about the bumper falling off the jack.



Instead of a shackle like was shown, I'd probably do something like these personally. I just don't trust anything on top of the lifting arm, I like having a bolt or threading the shackle pin through the hole to make sure nothing can move.





Not sure about this last picture. I would spin the shackle the other way and use a larger one. I think a 1/2" shackle is the largest that will fit through that way and they are usually rated 2 tons WLL. The pin on a 5/8" shackle will fit through that slot. A 3/4" shackle is rated 3.25 tons WLL, which is higher than the Hi-Lift (which is 4,660 lbs). The shear pin on a Hi-Lift is designed to give at 7,000 lbs.

 

Well that's scary.

 

Imagine a corroded beer can with two 1600hp turbine engines held together with purple glue and wire. And it gets worse from there. The engines feed the transmission through a shaft that runs on a plain bearing that looks like a cam bearing, with 55psi of oil pressure at 15000rpm. They fail at an alarming rate.

The worst automobile you can possibly imagine is way better designed than any chopper.

 

https://core-canada.com/collections/armour/products/tacoma-hybrid-bumper?variant=28720222785

Made in Canada, I'm sure if you talked to them they may be able to configure something to suit your needs

 

Since you know more than all of the fabricators, OP, this is your answer.

 

That last pic is sketchy. That hole is meant to keep things from moving and slipping, not intended for the load limit of the jack. That skinny piece of metal is definitley the weak spot in that setup and would fail before the shear pin would...

 

Hadn't thought of that, excellent point.

BTW, the sketchy part I had in mind was slipping. Hi-Lifts aren't stable as it is and hanging a shackle like that didn't seem like it would be very positive engagement.

I was thinking based on this:


Now that I think about it the winching kit that I have uses a band that wraps around the lifting shelf:

 

http://jeepsneeds.com/products/d-lift-adaptor-hi-lift

 

You definately want iron cross

 

Proper preparation and comms will get you help and home safely if really stuck solo.

A high lift used for extraction when solo is too risky and can change "stuck and healthy" into "still stuck, seriously injured and unconscious".

A high lift can't save you from every situation so you still need the prep and comms. Once you have prep and comms you are better off leaving the high lift behind. It does no job well and all of them unsafely. Using one while solo because you have a case of get-home-itis is screwed up priorities.

Someone will jump in and say a high lift is safe if properly used to which I say the same can be said for raw nitroglycerin or potassium tri-iodide but there is a reason no one uses those. Running solo means being even more careful and safety conscious and a high lift used in any trail situation is stupid to use solo for extraction. It is also the dumbest tool to use for changing tires - use a bottle jack with a properly sized base plate instead.

 

Thanks for that grandma.

I have lots of experience with a high lift and the places I like to go having a radio is a waste of time. Sat phone would be better but nobody is going to drive for ten hours to give you a tug with a strap.

I am not building an OHV park wheeler or mall crawler.

 

Your life and health grandson. I'd recommend in your situation getting reliable comms wherever you go (I carry a sat messenger myself) and getting yourself some actual safe and useful recovery gear if you want to do self recovery. And a high lift is not any part of that in my opinion - especially when solo. But of course you can do whatever you want. Just think it is funny you are so down on helicopters but don't take your own safety in your rig very seriously.

 

So you're going to use a sat phone to call a tow truck to change your flat? They have lots of uses, it's just a tool and requires care when using it. People have used them for lots of things and survived to tell the tale. Straightening stuff, moving an obstacle, part of a rigging to right a truck, stabilizing under the slider so the truck doesn't rock while sleeping in it.

Just having the handle as cheater is worth carrying it. Using the handle here to bend a skid plate that was rubbing my front driveshaft.