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"Leveling" vs "Lift" and MPG

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by pontoon, Mar 3, 2017.

  1. Mar 3, 2017 at 3:54 PM
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    I'm thinking about getting Fox 2.0 suspension front and rear, and new leaf springs. What I'm reading is that the standard adjustment will lift the front 2 inches. Apparently this will level the truck out since the front sits lower than the rear when stock. Mainly I'm trying to avoid a lift because I've heard a lift will hurt MPG. Will leveling the truck hurt MPG? Are there advantages to leveling the truck?
     
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    Lifting a truck won't hurt MPG, its that lifting is done so people fit larger, heavier tires. This causes a loss in MPG. Lifting you probably increase the drag coefficient slightly, but again, its more the tires that cause worse mileage.

    Not sure what you're asking about lifting vs leveling. If you level the front, you're lifting the front.
     
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    I guess one bit I'm unclear about is: if someone says they're doing a 2 inch lift, do they mean just the front? Or do they mean front and rear? If they mean front and rear, wouldn't that mean the front is still 2 inches lower than the rear (assuming what I read is correct that the rear is 2 inches higher than the front when stock).

    And then, I'm also wondering if there's an advantage to leveling the front? I do understand that leveling the front involves lifting the front.
     
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    No real mpg gain or loss with the front leveled. (Keeping the same tire size ) it's more for looks and maybe a little clearance under the front end for offroad road travle. But if you put a hevy load in the back your going to be spotlighting the sky at night.
     
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    A level is a lift, so therefore your still lifting.

    I have a 2" lift up front and approx the same out back... zero mpg changes.

    Tire size and rating have alot to do with mpg as well as psi.
     
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    I can re-aim the headlights, lord knows I know how to do that well after installing my HID retrofit. Thanks for the tips, I won't worry about the MPG, and leveling sounds nice, for my OCD if nothing else.
     
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    U could pull a leaf from the rear.... it wont be lifting but may get u closer to level :broccoli:
     
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    My leafs are probably near their end of life. I think pulling a leaf would just make things worse...
     
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    When people say lift, they mean both front and rear usually. You can however adjust the suspension so that after the lift it all sits level. (for example you could get coil-overs, and they will specify that they net 0-2.5" of lift depending on their setting). Leveling is purely for looks because people like it. It's not that practical in my opinion though. If you load the rear of a leveled truck, now you sit nose high.
     
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    Sorry just googled leveling kits....
    Seems like they are bottom of the barrel spacers and blocks.
    Wait that lifts both.....so its a lift
    Just labeled leveling kit

    What a fuster cluck.
     
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    I wouldn't do a leveling kit that uses a spacer. The suspension I'm looking at is coil overs that are adjustable and by default lift the front 2 inches (rear zero). This levels the truck. I find the point about loading the rear causing the truck to be front high to a bit of a concern. Is it a problem to be front high? More often than not, I would not have much in the rear of my truck (a sleeping platform, air compressor, recovery gear, hi lift jack, etc). Can anyone with a leveled truck comment on whether carrying a load causes problems when the truck is front high?
     
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    Blinding others with a load in the bed i assume would be an issue regardless of stance, but those cali leans must leave little room for headlight adjustment.
     
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    Sitting nose high you look like a goof :p just ask this guy

    https://i.imgur.com/RJpJixG.jpg
     
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