Just got lectured by a cop...

Buzzoff · Feb 23, 2010

tigerfan00 said: ↑

trust me

i have WAY better things to do than harass people about their driving habits
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toto said: ↑

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOvKmUeLvVY
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CLASSIC!! Love all the trunk monkey videos!!

Xaks · Feb 24, 2010

Buzoff said: ↑

Xaks, you made a lot of great points, but you sound very paranoid. I'm currently at 15 years in law enforcement, with much of that (and currently) dealing in narcotics.

Some of the things you are telling him to do will send up some major red flags. You tell him to only roll down his window only a few inches and not all the way. #1, among officers this is considered very rude unless it's raining or inclement weather. Is it within your right? OF COURSE. Is it within OUR right to find it rude? OF COURSE. The red flag this would send to ME if I was the officer stopping him is....hmmmm is he/she trying to hide something (like an odorl)????

2) You say to exit and lock your doors. Not bad advice and something that I might not even think twice about. But if someone made that comment to me I would take it as them being a smartass, which is not good.

3) If he asks you ANYTHING else, you tell him to say "Pardon? I don't consent to a search of my person or vehicle...am I under arrest or am I free to go?" ANYTHING else OR specifically to search your vehicle?Once again you are right, but if someone said this to me without me specifically asking to search, this would also throw up a red flag...hmmmm What is he hiding?

Remember a ticket is a privilege, not a right! I have had people get smart with me and send up these red flags. 99.9% of the time an officer will let you sign your ticket and go..but HE DOESN'T HAVE TO. He does not have to let you sign a ticket, he can book you straight into jail on the violations and tow your vehicle. And by towing your vehicle, guess what, he gets to go inside it and inventory it.

Just something to think about. Sounds like the OP did a great job handling himself. Remember, there are jerks in every profession.

Oh BTW, if you get pulled over and you know the reason why, don't lie about it. I can't begin to tell you how many people I have let go by them just being honest. For ME, if a person is honest AND has INSURANCE then they most likely will leave with no ticket. If you lie and deny then probably not.
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I'm not paranoid at all. Quite the opposite, really. More of a realist/pragmatist in practice.

What I *have* seen is a couple situations that ended up going terribly, horribly wrong what should NOT have, simply because the persons in question didn't know their rights or unknowingly got themselves caught doing something stupid.

I was actually planning on going federal law enforcement as a career path (I was lookin at a 'dream job' with the Marshalls, back before Snipes, Ford and Jones made the movies) when football blew my knees out. In college, I started really breaking down the system of law in this country and was so apalled at what I found that I could not in good conscience support that system. So, I changed career paths!

That's neither here nor there though. Whatever you do, don't argue with a cop in the field...you have NOTHING to 'win' and everything to lose. I've seen 99.99999% of good cops get tarnished by the brush used to show how bad cops abuse their power, and I don't like it. But I've also seen entirely too many people in positions of power forget who is supposed to have rights, and who pays the salaries.

kjf216 · Feb 24, 2010

i swear i read this same story from a cop on here before so that cop may be on this forum just saying prob not but that would make this even more interesting

OneJay · Feb 24, 2010

Figured I'd post this here just because you need to see it.

rme · Feb 24, 2010

ryanjboutin said: ↑

Did the 711 not have their fresh doughnuts yet? j/k

I think you did the right thing, and I also think he just wanted to make an impression on a younger driver
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Not the free ones!

rme · Feb 24, 2010

blackhawke88[OP] said: ↑

yea, I mean, I bet I can go up to anyone and say "Hey buddy, you cut me off the other day and spun your tires like 6 times" and have them thinking. He didnt specify a day or place. I was really tempted to ask him "Do you remember where, when this happened?" because I was actually really curious.

It is so easy to spin your tires in our trucks while turning, sometimes I dont even notice it, especially if Im trying to make a quick turn. It is also likely to have cut someone off without even noticing it. Not to say that I am a reckless driver, I have never received a single ticket in my life.

He was probably having a bad day, but got me really paranoid that he's gonna be on the look out for me, especially since the mods he cited me on are really hard to fix:

1. My wheels stick out because I have wide control arms from long travel. I dont run wheel spacers, and my tires arent ridiculously big (285s). I even spent money buying aftermarket fenders to make my wheels more flush.

2. When I registered my vehicle in Arizona, they didnt even issue me a second license plate. I didnt really know until I came to SCU that Cali cars need a front plate.

I just hope this officer doesnt see me accidentally hop a tire while turning in the future, especially because Im running all pro leaf packs which hop like crazy

Thanks for all the replies, I just wanted to hear some input as to whether this was common or not, and whether I should be worried about that cop in the future. AFAIK, every other cop I've chatted with are really cool and dont have any problems with my truck or driving.
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Maybe you should carry some free Krispy Kreme donuts to give him just in case!

Or you could give him one of these....

91Toyotabogger · Feb 24, 2010

he cant give you a ticket for what happened in the past I(Ex-post Facto) but he could call one of his friends to come get you when hes off duty next time..be careful

nd · Feb 24, 2010

tigerfan00 said: ↑

i quit asking people if they know why i pulled them over

i politely introduce myself, inform them why i stopped them, request #1 for license/reg/ins...if necessary request #2...at this point i go back to my car to run any info i have...when im done i return all paperwork to the driver...if he argues...i dont...and remind him of his court date...i will gladly explain the ticket if need be though...

obviously if i need to arrest that changes things...or if the spidey senses tingle...but a basic traffic stop with no ulterior motive...short, sweet, and too the point...no extraneous convo
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oh damn, here comes the cop. everyone stop having fun.....

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Xaks Cranky & often armed sysadmin

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kjf216 Fitz

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OneJay that non tacoma guy

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