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Visible positive camber after lift an alignment

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by hurley1114, Jul 27, 2014.

  1. Feb 18, 2017 at 4:37 PM
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  2. Apr 21, 2017 at 7:25 AM
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    20170421_105107.jpg With stock uppers and 3" lift u have to sacrifice caster for camber...and vice versa.

    They aligned your truck like this \-/ to add more caster so u don't float off the interstate at 80mph.

    Now if u do not like the pos camber look, then u will need aftermarket uppers.

    With mine...and stock uppers I couldn't get close enough to zero camber without sacrificing caster.
     
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  3. Apr 21, 2017 at 8:36 AM
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    Sorry to revive an old thread, but I'm seeing the exact same issues and I have the light racing UCA's from SPC.

    I have had it aligned 3 times since the lift in a span of 4 months. Twice at Toyota, 1 time and 4Wheel Parts. The positive camber is still visible on the passenger front. Wear is minimal, but the outside edge is definitely a little more round than the inside.
     
  5. Jun 8, 2018 at 12:20 PM
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    How much lift?

    I had visible positive camber on 887s but not for 886(with weight). That’s about 2.5 inches down from about 3ish. Both with LR UCA’s. Has always driven fine.
     
  6. Jun 8, 2018 at 1:09 PM
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    About 3 inches all around, but with the Aluminum pelfreybilt bumper, plus 10k lb winch that's come down a hair.

    Front: 5100's set to 0, with OME 885's (and a .25" spacer to correct driver side lean). LR UCA's
    Rear: 5100's extended travel, with OME Dakars.

    Do you think the .25" plate spacer on the drivers side could throw off readings?
     
  7. Jun 8, 2018 at 3:46 PM
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    If it is your passenger side that you are noticing, then it seems unlikely the driver side spacer is the prob. I wonder if it is your uca’s that aren’t adjusted correctly.
     
  8. Jun 8, 2018 at 6:31 PM
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    I just wondered if the the driver side has an additional 0.25”, then it might throw of the calibration of the opposite side.

    I brought the SPC spec/install sheet with me to Toyota and 4 wheel parts but they both reassured me they have worked on them before. You’d think 1 time out of 3 it might have been done right.

    4 wheel parts has a 90 day guarantee, so I think I’ll do a rotation and take it back there to see.
     
  9. Jun 14, 2018 at 12:31 PM
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    I don't think they've ever adjusted anything from the UCA.
    I think when I go back in I'll tell them to put the camber around -.5 to see if that does it.

    IMG_9360.jpg
     
  10. Nov 27, 2018 at 7:12 AM
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    apparently the positive camber is supposed to be like this. For third gens, many have visible positive camber. After my 2" lift... its a little more pronounced but the alignment checked out.
     
  11. Nov 27, 2018 at 7:02 PM
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    When I did my 2" lift in front, I had it aligned. It was 'in spec' but I could see positive camber as well. I took it back and they tried to get it to zero. My alignment cam sleeves in the fronts were seized. After I noticed uneven tire wear, I replaced them and got aligned again. Now, you can see that the tires are nice and plumb although I never saw the numbers. I can actually see that it's better, AND it handles much better. It didn't handle bad before but it is noticeably better now.
    Your alignment components may be seized, that is if they're not maxed out.
     
  12. Nov 27, 2018 at 8:07 PM
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    On a brand new truck? My alignment numbers were pretty good. Plus on the third gens this positive camber thing is normal. Many say it’s just an illusion but if Toyota is shipping them like this it must be ok.
     
  13. Nov 27, 2018 at 8:16 PM
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    Camber should be 0, or as close as possible.
     
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    Sorry to be joining so late...

    I have the same issue after a 2.5” lift with 5100s I noticed a positive camber. Should I take it in to get alligned but tell them to give me -1° or so?
     
  15. Jan 6, 2019 at 6:03 PM
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    Many have it before a lift. The lift just pronounces it. Get it normally aligned. A lot of it is an optical illusion and depends on the ground you’re sitting on. Sometimes mine looks damn near straight up, others the positive camber is real.
     
  16. Jan 6, 2019 at 6:24 PM
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    Thanks for the tip, I’m going to take it in for an alignment and ask them to check the camber
     
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    Took it in for an alignment, and they were able to fix the camber! I’m sure i’ll need new UCA eventually but for now the wheels are straight!
     
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    Did they set it to zero?
     
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    I'm bumping this thread to see if any of you guys (or anyone else) have anymore on this at all. Though I haven't gotten an alignment in a year, I had 2 alignments since my 2.5" lift up front with JBA UCAs and have always still had visible positive camber but now I also noticed more wear on the outsides of my tires. My last alignment the camber was close to 0 and so was toe. Caster was at 3ish. Truck has been babied and only on a few dirt roads so no off roading or accidents or anything. How's everyone's tire wear? Why would our cambers show that they are close to zero on the alignment sheets but then visibly we can see positive camber and now more uneven tire wear?
     
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    Having the same issue^

    I got my alignment today on my 2nd gen double cab tacoma and I notice a positive camber visually on my passenger side wheel as well. I am running king coils with camburg uniball UCAs. Not sure what my lift height is but I think it’s ~2.5”.

    Current alignment angle specs:
    Front Left:
    -0.1* Camber
    2.0* Caster
    0.08* Toe
    Front Right:
    -0.1* Camber
    2.1* Caster
    0.08* Toe

    Anyways, not sure why I visually see the positive camber on the passenger even though it showed up as close to 0* camber on my alignment sheet. My driver side LCA camber bolt looks maxed out to achieve close to 0* camber . But my passenger side camber bolt looks like its on the minimum setting with more adjustment to get rid of the positive camber appearance... My truck drives straight, don’t notice anything off. Anyone know how I can fix the positive camber look without throwing everything else off?

    Also, I was wondering if I should go up on caster on my alignment? I’m on 285/70/17 and the tires look pretty close to the fender well and I am experiencing rubbing.
    Per @Camburg UCA alignment instructions:
    ‘Additional caster is built into the Camburg arms to correct alignment issues that are inherent with lifting the vehicle. Have your alignment shop increase caster from the OEM suggested specs, then set camber and toe. Having an increase in caster helps with straight line stability and cornering precision.’

    My alignment tech kind of ignored these instructions and was able to get stock alignment specs with 2* of caster. Will increasing caster help better my alignment, move the center of my wheel forward away from the fender well?

    Thinking about taking my truck back in.
     
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