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OEM to Air On Board Fog Light Switch Wiring

Discussion in 'Lighting' started by Qball 16, Apr 3, 2015.

  1. Apr 16, 2017 at 8:12 PM
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    While a diagram would show how the internal circuit in the AOB is laid out, unfortunately it's the stock lighting circuit that is the problem.

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  2. Apr 16, 2017 at 8:21 PM
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    The stock Rheostat controls both the power feed and ground wire to each light bulb in the illumination circuit. by using the stock ILL- on the AOB switch, you are creating a direct path to ground. This causes the whole illumination circuit to bypass the rheostat ILL- input wire and go straight to ground via the switch.
     

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  3. Apr 22, 2017 at 7:01 PM
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    Went back in today.
    I ended up move the ground to frame and removing it from the dimmer to prevent the ECU blowing. I took a look around and found some really deep info about the circuit in a 4-Runner forum and some prints.

    That being said, I still need the resistor added to the green wire coming off the Fog light relay to get the symbol to light up. Everything is all working fine now.

    Does anyone happen to know the resistance of the built in dash rheostat?
     
  4. Apr 23, 2017 at 4:53 PM
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    I'm so confused.

    I have an AOB fog light switch. I want to just pull out the factory fog light switch and replace it with the AOB switch. I don't want to change how the switch functions, except to add the LED indicator when the switch is "on." Everything else can remain the same, if possible.

    But I have no idea which wire to attach to which.

    On the truck I have these wires and MAYBE the functions for them:

    B/W (ground)
    Blue (pin 85)
    Green/white (sw illum -)
    Green (sw illum +)


    On the switch I have:
    Red/yellow
    Green/yellow
    Blue/yellow
    Black

    My AOB switch arrived with no wiring diagram, just a switch and a wiring harness. I've searched and there are a few AOB diagrams on this forum and the Internet, but I can't find one clear enough to read and I can't find one on AOB's website.

    Any help? I didn't think it would be this hard!!
     
  5. Apr 23, 2017 at 5:02 PM
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    Here is what I did to mine to get it to work:

    AOB___________________________STOCK
    Red/Yellow-------------------------------Blue
    Green/Yellow----(82ohm Resistor)-----Black/White
    Blue/Yellow-----------------------------Green
    Black------------------------------------Grnd (ran new to frame)
    Green/ White were capped off and not used anymore.

    I only ran a new grnd to frame for my Black because I made a mini harness for all 4 of my new switches, it was just easier with room and maint at the time.

    Wiring it up this way will get the label to come on with the control lights but not dim. The dimmer is run off the grnd and I believe shares with the ECU. There was a debate about some people not having any issues tying it in to the dimmer, while others ended up blowing the ECU. I went back to the safe route and ran my own ground. They aren't bright enough where I need them to be dimmed anyhow.
     
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  6. Apr 23, 2017 at 5:08 PM
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    I could kiss you. lol thank you! I was hoping someone would give me kindergarten directions: wire the blue/yellow to green, etc. But I wasn't going to actually ask for that.

    I can live without a dimmable switch. But running with fogs on in clear weather is illegal here, I don't want a ticket. Plus a couple weeks ago I got pulled over because I had a headlight out, and didn't realize it because I didn't notice my fogs were on. At least he let me go with a warning.
     
  7. Apr 23, 2017 at 11:15 PM
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    I wish I could explain it better but the stock illumination circuit is not designed to operate on a aftermarket switch that doesn't have a dedicated lighting circuit. A dedicated circuit does not share a common power or ground with in the switch.

    These aftermarket switches need to have a separate power input for the "dash illumination" feature. Your best bet is to use the "tail" fuse as a source. This fuse is powered when turning on the park/headlights. Unfortunately the switches are not dimmable without creating your own dimming circuit - this involves controlling the input power.
     
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  8. Apr 23, 2017 at 11:37 PM
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    I need to relook at the stock foglight wiring diagram, you shouldn't need to add a resistor to it regardless of the switch controlling the ground side of the relay. The led should work as long as the polarity is correct when hook up the wires. It does dim the light with the extra resistance.
     
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  9. Apr 24, 2017 at 4:04 AM
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    It looks like the green/white is the ground, maybe? I'm only changing out the one switch so I should be able to just use the existing green/white ground.

    I currently have wires sticking out of my dash because I saw that you used a resistor and yesterday being Sunday evening I couldn't buy a resistor, all the stores were closed. But then...

    I think I'll still put a resistor on it so the light isn't crazy bright.

    Wouldn't it have been easier for Toyota to just put a #%£€* indicator light on the dash?! "Hey look, your fogs are on."
     
  10. Apr 24, 2017 at 4:57 AM
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    Green/White is the grnd but only for the dimmer circuit. You cant use that with this switch other wise it will put voltage through the rheostat.

    I would give it a go without the resistor and see what happens. It won't effect the brightness of the symbol. For me it was the only way I could get the symbol to even come on. I shouldn't need it really, but cant place my finger on why I do. Doesn't really make sense.

    Try hooking it up with both your Red/ Yellow and Black from the AOB to ground. But not Green/Wht, that's ground through a dimmer which you don't want to do.
     
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  11. Apr 25, 2017 at 1:26 PM
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    Well... wired it like above, but with the black wired into the same truck wire with the red/yellow.

    The lower LED doesn't come on at all, the upper one comes on when the lights are off, and turns off when the lights are on.

    :annoyed: :rofl:

    What I *thought* would happen:
    Upper illuminated all the time, lower on when lights are on, off when lights are off.

    I guess at least I have an indication when they are on. *sigh*
     
  12. Apr 25, 2017 at 2:58 PM
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    Switched it so

    AOB..... Truck
    Blue/yellow .... blue
    Green/yellow.... green.

    Now the bottom light is on all the time and the fog light don't come on at all.

    Edit: aww hell with it. First setup is fine, after half and hour of flipping wires around I'm so over this.
     
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  13. Apr 25, 2017 at 3:01 PM
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    Thats probably because I am a dodo.
    I swapped the wiring on two wires when writing out the print. I fixed it now on my post.

    Yup the was the same exact issue I had and exactly why I added the resistor. I popped the resistor in and it all worked.
     
  14. Apr 25, 2017 at 3:32 PM
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    lol I just gave up and snapped the switch into the slot. I can't get to it without pulling out the dash so I will mess with it later if it annoys me. Thank you for your help though!
     
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    Aight. I'm a little OCD, got it wired up correctly. I used a 47 ohm (1/2 watt) resistor. It wouldn't light up at all without the resistor.

    As discussed above, it's not illuminated at all when the lights are not on, but that's fine, I don't want to rewire more.

    To be clear, here's my setup:
    AOB......................... Toyota
    Red/yellow.................. Blue
    Green/Yellow..... Resistor...... black/white
    Blue/Yellow .................Green
    Black ............... black/white

    There is nothing attached to toyota's green/white, it's capped. And it's correct that there are 2 wires attached to the Toyota black/white.

    So now the LED is on when the lights are on and off when they're off. I'll take it. Thanks again for your help.
     
  16. Apr 25, 2017 at 10:17 PM
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    AOB Switch - layout

    Switch - Red/Yellow stripe wire = Power output/feed to relay (activation)
    Switch - Green/Yellow stripe wire = Fused switched or constant 12v source input
    Switch - Blue/Yellow stripe wire = Switch light (positive 12v input - LED bulb)
    Switch - Black wire = Chassis ground

    Stock Harness - layout
    Harness - #1) Green/white wire = Switch illumination positive circuit wire
    Harness - #2) Green wire = Switch illumination negative circuit wire
    Harness - #3) Blue wire = Power feed from fog light relay
    Harness - #4) Black/white stripe wire = Chassis ground wire

    AOB Switch wired to Stock Harness
    Switch - Red/Yellow stripe wire
    To
    Harness - #4) Black/white stripe wire

    Switch - Green/Yellow stripe wire
    To
    Harness - #3) Blue wire

    Switch - Blue/Yellow stripe wire = Switch light (top)
    To
    Aux wire - Use an add-a-circuit and tap the "Tail" fuse. This will light up the switch when you flip on the parking or headlights.

    Switch - Black wire
    To
    Aux wire - Chassis ground

    Unused wires on stock harness - these are controlled by a separate stock circuit
    Harness - #1) Green/white wire = tape off end / hot while dash lights are on
    Harness - #2) Green wire = Tape off end
     
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  17. Apr 25, 2017 at 10:35 PM
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    swapping these two wires will allow for the switch top led to light up when the switch is turned on. currently, it is bypassing the internal connection the switch makes when pressed.

    LED's are polarity sensitive also
     
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  18. Apr 26, 2017 at 4:17 AM
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    I had no difference on mine when I swapped them, that is what was driving me nuts at the time.
     
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    Added Kids for moral support with the intent on more.
    I'm pretty OCD about my truck looking nice so I got a stock QI wireless button and wired in a ChoTech 3 coil wireless charger under the little pocket on my console there shown in this pic.

    Everything works perfect but the lighting.

    I attached a wiring drawing of how I wired it up but I did it with the truck on and I had 12v when I started across green and gr/wh but I believe I accidentally shorted it while testing and now I only have 3v so my ac light and my QI backlight are very dim at night. They do not regulate by the variable resistor roller left of the steering wheel anymore.

    All that being said, does anyone know where the 2 connectors I circled are located? i was going to see if i burnt a pic at one of those connectors or what i need to do.

    Any help is appreciated!!
    Thanks!

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    qi button.jpg
     
  20. Aug 8, 2018 at 5:34 PM
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    Waking this one from the dead. Thanks for the information. I have it in mind to replace my rear locker switch as well.
     

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