1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Front brakes seized after wash

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Hank Heel, May 13, 2017.

  1. May 13, 2017 at 9:40 PM
    #21
    BlakeM

    BlakeM Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2017
    Member:
    #207016
    Messages:
    1,413
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Blake
    Gonzales, LA
    Vehicle:
    2023 T4R.SR5.4WD.OMG.LOL.WTF
    That, sir, is determination.

    Never once in our 2 weeks of winter, have I ever washed my truck. I mean, there is no chance I'm ever going to wash my truck in the frigid 65F weather.
     
    Riding Dirty likes this.
  2. May 13, 2017 at 9:41 PM
    #22
    GPsevinSixx

    GPsevinSixx Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2016
    Member:
    #194631
    Messages:
    3,022
    Ros Angerus
    Vehicle:
    2015twoAX2.4techPAWS
    6112/5160AALfnCNTSTRyokG015
    :thumbsup: Please report back with your findings.
     
    shakerhood likes this.
  3. May 13, 2017 at 9:58 PM
    #23
    FFBlack

    FFBlack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2016
    Member:
    #188730
    Messages:
    1,212
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Vehicle:
    2019 TRD OFF ROAD
    This usually happens when it sits for a few days after a wash. There's a high iron content in the rotors and they rust extremely fast, like hours after a wash you'll see rust forming. It gets worse over the course of a few days and the the pads get stuck to the rotor, hence the popping noise when they finally release. After your wash just go for a quick ride to dry the brakes off. It's very common at a dealership where new cars sit a few weeks before being sold and you have to break them free, and that's just from rain and humidity.
     
    UrbanT@co and TheCookieMonster like this.
  4. May 13, 2017 at 10:01 PM
    #24
    shakerhood

    shakerhood Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2015
    Member:
    #161370
    Messages:
    37,040
    Gender:
    Male
    Southern Ohio
    Vehicle:
    2017 MGM DCSB Off Road, 6 Speed MT, P&T
    I have owned my car since 1998, wash it and pull it into the garage where it can sit for a few weeks before I use it again and it has never had seized brakes.
     
  5. May 13, 2017 at 10:03 PM
    #25
    Hank Heel

    Hank Heel [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2016
    Member:
    #197637
    Messages:
    1,644
    Gender:
    Male
    WA
    Nope
     
    Tcoma16, GPsevinSixx and shakerhood like this.
  6. May 13, 2017 at 10:06 PM
    #26
    b_r_o

    b_r_o Gnar doggy

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2016
    Member:
    #202672
    Messages:
    14,274
    First Name:
    Alex
    WA
    Vehicle:
    2015 DCLB
    That doesn't mean it's not happening to anyone.. hairy could be on to something. Also somebody mentioned checking the abs connectors. Probably not going to find anything hinky with the connectors , theu just watch wheel speed and report to the abs module. The rust could cause this..
     
  7. May 13, 2017 at 10:07 PM
    #27
    GPsevinSixx

    GPsevinSixx Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2016
    Member:
    #194631
    Messages:
    3,022
    Ros Angerus
    Vehicle:
    2015twoAX2.4techPAWS
    6112/5160AALfnCNTSTRyokG015
    Mechanically, the truck has enough power to break that surface rust easily. They won't stick as described. I've worked at dealerships and have moved cars that sat outside for months. We have cars at work now that sit long enough, where we need to take a jumper pack to start a vehicle after it sat out for 6 months with serious rust and all you'll hear is the grinding of the rust off the rotors when brakes are applied. No such sticking.

    Hank seems to be describing another mechanical issue with actual braking force applied by the hydraulic system with another force actuating them and not his foot on the fat pedal.
     
  8. May 13, 2017 at 10:08 PM
    #28
    shakerhood

    shakerhood Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2015
    Member:
    #161370
    Messages:
    37,040
    Gender:
    Male
    Southern Ohio
    Vehicle:
    2017 MGM DCSB Off Road, 6 Speed MT, P&T
    Totally agree that it is more than likely something like a Sensor causing this and not drums or rotors holding back a 4500Lb Truck because you sprayed some water on the wheels.
     
    GPsevinSixx likes this.
  9. May 13, 2017 at 10:10 PM
    #29
    Hank Heel

    Hank Heel [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2016
    Member:
    #197637
    Messages:
    1,644
    Gender:
    Male
    WA
    I'm certain this was a /electrical mechanical glitch of the abs/hill assist and not a chemical reaction of rotor/brake compound, it wasn't fused because of high iron and humidity. This was a caliper holding a rotor with full force.
     
  10. May 13, 2017 at 10:11 PM
    #30
    b_r_o

    b_r_o Gnar doggy

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2016
    Member:
    #202672
    Messages:
    14,274
    First Name:
    Alex
    WA
    Vehicle:
    2015 DCLB
    How is a sensor going to hold back a 4500 lb truck?
     
  11. May 13, 2017 at 10:12 PM
    #31
    Hank Heel

    Hank Heel [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2016
    Member:
    #197637
    Messages:
    1,644
    Gender:
    Male
    WA
    My experience exactly
     
    GPsevinSixx[QUOTED] likes this.
  12. May 13, 2017 at 10:12 PM
    #32
    b_r_o

    b_r_o Gnar doggy

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2016
    Member:
    #202672
    Messages:
    14,274
    First Name:
    Alex
    WA
    Vehicle:
    2015 DCLB
    Put your seatbelt on LOL!
     
  13. May 13, 2017 at 10:12 PM
    #33
    GPsevinSixx

    GPsevinSixx Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2016
    Member:
    #194631
    Messages:
    3,022
    Ros Angerus
    Vehicle:
    2015twoAX2.4techPAWS
    6112/5160AALfnCNTSTRyokG015
    If it gets wet internally, a short is created, sends erroneous signal to ABS computer/ traction control briefly and causes a brake corner(S) to hold.
     
    shakerhood likes this.
  14. May 13, 2017 at 10:17 PM
    #34
    Hank Heel

    Hank Heel [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2016
    Member:
    #197637
    Messages:
    1,644
    Gender:
    Male
    WA
    Full disclose, and my senses could be wrong, but it felt that driver side caliper was holding, just the way the truck was swaying left with throttle input
     
    GPsevinSixx likes this.
  15. May 13, 2017 at 10:18 PM
    #35
    JayRolla

    JayRolla Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2017
    Member:
    #214833
    Messages:
    2,887
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jason
    Colorado Springs
    Vehicle:
    Wife's 2012 DCSB Tacoma Sr5
    Trd stickers for 10whp 32s on MK6 17s
    Bs. Owned over 10 vehicles in 15 years and never happened.
     
    RustyTacoVT and shakerhood like this.
  16. May 13, 2017 at 10:26 PM
    #36
    b_r_o

    b_r_o Gnar doggy

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2016
    Member:
    #202672
    Messages:
    14,274
    First Name:
    Alex
    WA
    Vehicle:
    2015 DCLB
    He would have abs code if sensor shorted
     
    Lawfarin likes this.
  17. May 13, 2017 at 10:26 PM
    #37
    b_r_o

    b_r_o Gnar doggy

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2016
    Member:
    #202672
    Messages:
    14,274
    First Name:
    Alex
    WA
    Vehicle:
    2015 DCLB
    He would have a code
     
  18. May 13, 2017 at 10:36 PM
    #38
    GPsevinSixx

    GPsevinSixx Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2016
    Member:
    #194631
    Messages:
    3,022
    Ros Angerus
    Vehicle:
    2015twoAX2.4techPAWS
    6112/5160AALfnCNTSTRyokG015
    Not always, some intermittent faults aren't hard codes. These are known as "pending" codes that won't set off a light. Hard codes can set off lights and are stored into the computer and data is logged for event occurance.
    Hank, any warning lights that remained on? It didn't reoccur?
     
    shakerhood likes this.
  19. May 13, 2017 at 10:37 PM
    #39
    b_r_o

    b_r_o Gnar doggy

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2016
    Member:
    #202672
    Messages:
    14,274
    First Name:
    Alex
    WA
    Vehicle:
    2015 DCLB
    Of the pads pins/slides
    If you felt a thump in the pedal then it's probably something in the brake booster unit under the hood. Like a dump valve hanging up and staying closed too long. Ask the dealer if there are any updates available for the EBS..
     
  20. May 13, 2017 at 10:38 PM
    #40
    Lawfarin

    Lawfarin Who me?

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2015
    Member:
    #167659
    Messages:
    7,937
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Beetle Juice
    NY
    Vehicle:
    2024 GMC Sierra
    I'll guarantee it was the drums. You had the emergency brake applied. my guess is you got them too wet and they seized. Quite common. Next time wash it without the emergency brake on
     

Products Discussed in

To Top