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Anybody running Maxxis Buckshot II 764?

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by Buck18, Jan 14, 2016.

  1. May 14, 2016 at 2:13 PM
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    26k on my bighorns and i love em. Buckshot 2 will be my next tire to try.

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  2. Jun 10, 2016 at 11:06 PM
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    I ordered Buckshot II's today. They should be at my local tire shop and installed on my truck Monday. I went with 245 75 16 Load Range C. I called Maxxis this morning and had the nice lady look up the tire weights on the 2 sizes I was considering.

    245 75 16 C's = 41 pounds
    265 75 16 C's = 47 pounds

    My mounted, balanced, out the door price is $689. My coworker is interested in buying 4 of my stock tires with 5,500 miles on them for $150.

    Once I get them on and get a chance to drive, I will post my impressions/reviews. The MT's I've owned that I can compare to are BFG KM1's (stock Jeep Rubicon tires) and Kenda Mud Klevers.
     
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  3. Jun 12, 2016 at 8:28 AM
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    Good deal. Looking forward to your review !
     
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  4. Jun 13, 2016 at 7:38 AM
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    Getting the Buckshot II's mounted. Glad I didn't go with the 265 75's in this tire. These are much meatier and the tire looks bigger than the stock tires sitting next to it. I know the tires will settle some when the full weight of the truck is on them, and don't think there will be much, if any, difference than stock size. I'll post my impressions later today when I've had a chance to drive them and post some reviews later as I get more time with them. Here is a pic just prior to mounting:

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  5. Jun 13, 2016 at 11:27 AM
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    Here are a couple quick pics mounted. I'll get some better pics showing the whole truck when I get home. Initial impressions are that they ride well on the road, the noise level isn't bad at all - in fact, Id say more than the BFG KM1's (stock tire on a Jeep Rubicon), but slightly less than the Kend Mud Klevers. They are definitely smoother than the Kendas. The rolling resistance will be the downfall/mpg killer on these Buckshot II's. I'm going to reset my mpg on the way home and get a 27 mile highway run to see what they do on the highway. I know the combined will be less, but I want the strict hwy sample, then will do the combos, then when it is time to fill up, I'll check the tank mpg. After that, I'm not gonna worry about my mpg's much more and just enjoy these tires.

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  6. Jun 13, 2016 at 5:29 PM
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    After seeing your pics I will definitely order a set of these. Thanks for all the updates. I look forward to the rest of your reviews on these. One thing I'm interested in is how they do in rainy conditions. I've got about 10k miles left on rugged trails.
    Your truck looks awesome !
     
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  7. Jun 18, 2016 at 9:07 PM
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    I'm just now seeing your response. I don't know why I didn't get a notification. I apologize for the delay. I was gonna write something a couple times but decided to wait until I had some more miles, this is is close enough.

    I have about 500 miles on my tires now. I like 'em a lot!! They look great and really set off the look of the truck. They also give the illusion of having a bigger tire, when in actuality I went down half a hair in size (265/70's to C 245/75's). I'm extremely happy with the 245's.

    Road Noise: This is subjective, and I'm not very sensitive to MT tire noises. However, I will be comparing these Buckshot II's with the BFG KM1's MT that is the stock tire that come on the Jeep Rubicon and also with Kenda Mud Klevers. Both brands were 255/75/17 and were the Load C. These Buckshot II tires are surprisingly quiet. I'd say not as quiet as the BFG KM1's but not as loud as the Kenda Mud Klevers. MT's get louder as the wear down the tread. That is just the nature of the beast. I don't foresee these becoming out of control loud, unless the tire malfunctions or there is uneven wear from alignment issues etc. I was a tad bit hesitant adding these to my new Tacoma because of how much quieter my Tacoma is compared to my previous Wrangler Rubicon. I was worried that because my Tacoma is quieter that the tires would be annoyingly loud. I was worried for nothing. Maxxis did a great job designing these tires to be as aggressive as they are and not be as tamed as they are on the road, particularly in regards to noise.

    Road Manners: The Buckshot II's handle better than the BFG KM1's and the Kenda Mud Klevers on road. The KM1's weren't bad on the road but were smoother than the Kendas and weren't as harsh. The Kendas had a slight bumpy feel at parking lot speeds but smoothed out at highway speeds. The Buckshot II's are definitely considerably smoother than either the KM1's or the Kenda Mud Klevers. You feel like your truck is sure-footed and stuck to the pavement. The tires look and feel beefy. These things are not flimsy or cheap quality. Braking is good, acceleration is good (depending on your power plant, gearing, weight, size etc). I have to say this is a true MT tire with very liveable day to day road manners. These tires have a lot of rolling resistance. They will eat some mpg numbers, but not bad. I've lost about 2 mpg's, give or take .5 mpg. I can't believe that I'm getting up to 22.4 mpg's running these tires. For the gained off road traction and the good road manners, that mpg is a fair trade. Besides, if I was really after mpg's, I would have bought a Prius or a Corolla instead of a Tacoma.

    Wet Traction: We have had some rain the last few days, so I got to see how the Bucshot II's responded. Here in Central MS, our roads are not all that great. A lot of the major two lane highways have grooves worn out in the lanes where rain water puddles. There are 2 such highways I drive to and from work regularly. I normally straddle the puddles water in those grooves just to be safer and not travel constantly in the standing water. There was hardly any traffic, so I intentionally drove so that I stayed in the grooves. There was no hydroplaning. These tires gave me confidence, more so than the KM1's and Kenda Mud Klevers for wet traction. Note: the KM1's are not bad in wet traction. I've read where some people white knuckle worried about them...I don't get that as that was certainly never my experience. However, the Buckshot II's do feel better. The Kenda Mud Klevers did hydroplane some, although they had a lot of siping on the tires. The Buckshot II's have some siping but not as much as the Klevers; however, the Buckshot II's just outperform the Klevers and the KM1's in the rain.

    Snow Traction: Yeah, ummm, here in MS when we get 2" of snow, the governor declares a state of emergency. lol I can't help ya on the snow traction. The tires have tiny holes where you can insert metal studs. I don't even have a clue what metal studs for tires even look like! lol

    Mud Traction: I don't know...yet. I will not go mud bogging, and I will not abuse my vehicle. I will have an opportunity to try them out in mud when I go down to our ponds, cross some fields after a rain, and when I go mountain biking and drive down some unmaintained gravel government roads where the side of the road gets very soft and muddy.

    I'll update more as I get more seat time with these tires. So far, I'm very happy to get the good road manners and the mpg's that I'm getting on such an aggressive deep treaded tire. I'm not saying 265/75/16's won't fit, but I am saying it would be a tight squeeze. The lugs on these tires are something else.

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    Thanks for the great updates and the detailed review JayDubya. I'm in NW Ga so our conditions are close to the same. We may get more ice and snow than you but it's not like I'm in 6" of snow weekly so that's really no problem. I would anticipate these to get louder but, it's a truck and I don't mind a M/T. I've always ran M/T and used to a bit of noise as long as they balance good.
    I look forward to your long term reviews. Maybe I can join in soon with my own !
     
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    20160726_102423.jpg 20160724_133037.jpg 20160724_175937.jpg 20160724_194235.jpg I have them and I love them.

    I have 265x70x16C on stock 4runner. These tires unleash the beast within and the truck goes into beast mode with the atrac + elocker + 4:10 gears.

    Road: I switch them out on the weekends and can hardly tell the difference between these and street tires on the road. Very happy with the road manners. No rain or snow yet.

    Offroad: I did a lot of research before I chose these over popular MTs with good reputations. I couldn't be more pleased.

    Sand - was surprised to see they floated over sand better than the street tires at the same psi (18 front 16 rear). Rather than digging in the lugs work as paddles. I haven't found a dune I cannot climb. They are beast in the soft sand. I got them in load C for that purpose and suspect higher load range tires will have a harder time in the sand.

    Rocks - unstoppable. With the atrac I literally climbed the side of a mountain. They are so sticky they feel like a slick or drag radial. The only thing that stopped me in the end was not having a lift. But the tires crawled thru the rocks like nothing and chipped only minimally. The climb was so tuff and steep my girl even got scared and I thought for sure entire lugs flew off the tire. But nope, they are very strong.

    Mud - haven't tried mud. But this guy has.

    It's apparent from the video that he tried to spin them while in 2wd but couldn't. The back tires were literally dragging the front tires forward without breaking traction.
     
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  10. Aug 4, 2016 at 12:31 PM
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    You've definitely done more with yours @VIZA IVXX than I have with mine. I agree about these being some great tires. Last weekend, my dad and I was able to get on a gravel forestey road with some ruts after a rain going up a hill. A 2wd with AT's would have slid or spun a lot. These tires performed flawlessly. Im confident that I could have made it up in 2wd but 4lo was awesome (I like going VERY slow).

    Im due for a tire rotation at my 10k mile service in the next week or two. I was planning to give another update on mine. Ive had them on my truck around 3,500 - 4,000 miles.
     
  11. Aug 4, 2016 at 5:36 PM
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    Thanks for updates @JayDubya and @VIZA IVXX. Got 1 more oil change on rugged trails and definitely getting these. Looking forward to more reviews !!!
     
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    Do these tires only have black sidewalls or are all of you guys just hiding the white letters on the inside?
     
  13. Aug 7, 2016 at 10:03 AM
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    Mine in LT 245 75 16 C are only blackwall. Ive seen a few other sizes on some others around here and they are all blackwall, too.

    The only white letters sidewall Ive seen have been on the Austrailian version (Maxxis 764 Bighorns). These tires have gotten some positive reviews from the Austrailian market.
     
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    Black sidewall only. In other parts of the world the buckshot 764 is called the bighorn 764, which has huge white letters.
     
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    Im glad you posted in here. That reminds me I need to do the 20k mile update.

    The Reader's Digest version is that im 95% sure Id rebuy this exact same tire. It has gotten noisier but is not bad for aggressive MT's. However, noise and what people can tolerate is subjective.
     
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    Well, looks like this will be my final post here at TW. I traded my much liked and admired Taco for a 16 F-150 with more room and more comfort. I began having back issues again (thinning disks) and the Taco seats, as well as entry and exiting the Taco are far more difficult and bothersome to my back that in the F-150. I was not unhappy with my Taco other than the room and comfort. To me, the Taco (and possible the 16-17 Silverado) are the best looking trucks on the road. I got a deal I couldn't pass up plus got more room and comfort. I took a little shave and a haircut from trading my Taco in, but my payments only went up $35 per month plus I got a new truck (Truck Month with lots of rebates and discounts on leftover 16's). No hate from me towards the Taco. If someone wants to buy a good Taco with almost 28K miles on it, I know where one is... :)

    As promised, this will be my final review for the Maxxis Buckshot Mudder II tires. First, just the appearance of these tires is menacing. I only ran these tires for about 23k miles. My Taco had 5k miles on it when I bought it. Anyway, the tire treads had at least another 20k miles on them or maybe a smidgen more. I think if you rotate your tires every oil change (3rd Gen Taco schedule) you can get 40-45k out of them very easily. I did not take measurements of the tread, nor did I care to take said measurements. I love this tire and have been very pleased with it in all the conditions for which I drive. I live in central MS, so snow and ice are rare here. I cannot speak to their performance in those conditions. I have not had any issues in rain or other driving. I am not a hardcore off roader, so no rock crawling or mud bogging for me, although Im not scared to go through muddy spots in fields etc. These tires are quite honestly very well suited to muddy fields going to/leaving ponds, an unmaintained gravel road with ruts and a small sandy and shallow branch type crossing, dirt...pretty much whatever you encounter. Again, I have no idea about rock crawling. In 245 75-16 (half a hair down in size from stock), you can get Load C. According to Maxxis, that tire weighs around 41-43 pounds, IIRC. When I put these tires on, several people thought I had gotten a small lift. It really set off the look of this Taco. Btw, your gas mileage will take a hit due to the enormous rolling resistance, but it will not be terrible. Everything is a trade off. I could still get 20 mpg without even trying to be conservative - just driving my normal. When I tried to be conservative, I could get 22.5 with the MT's. That is not bad, imho.

    The downside/con is that they did increase in noise, but not as bad as other MT's. Again, I would put them above the BFG MT's (stock Rubicon tire) but less than that of the Kendra Mud Klevers. They certainly got noisier, but that isn't a sound I mind on a 4x4 truck or Jeep. YMMV. If I was looking for street only or just mild occasional gravel road or mostly dry field driving, I would look for another tire. This would be way overkill for that.

    I don't think Maxxis makes this tire in my F-150's stock size, but if they ever do, or if they make a size close where I don't have to add a lift or change the wheels, then I'm 95% sure I'd buy this Buckshot Mudder II tire again. I have not had a single issue with these tires. I had a very slight vibration in the steering wheel compared to the stockers, but I attributed that to the rolling resistance. Again, that was slight and should be expected with a MT. I know a lot of people may not consider them a premium tire, but I definitely think these are undervalued. I got my set of 4 installed for right at $800 (I think it was a little less).

    I hope whoever reads this will consider giving Maxxis Buckshot II's a shot. I am not paid by, sponsored, or affiliated with Maxxis other than as a customer with real world experience. This will make a great tire no matter the brand vehicle you drive.
     
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    Thanks for your thorough review !! Good luck with the F-150
     
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    Thanks for all the great info!

    Wondering if this will be a good tire for a weekend warrior? I have a 13 with a 2'' lift that has BFG KO's and am looking to replace them. I'm looking for a good 265/75r16 in load C (no more than D) rating. Never had a MT tire and a little afraid I will end up regretting it but, I like the look of a more meaty tire.

    Thanks for your time and knowledge.
     
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    Wonder how these would work on a side by side. The 27x8.5x14
     

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