What have you done to your Tacoma today? 1st Gen Edition

Hey 1st Gen owners - me being the suspension new guy I am going to check in with the TW folks...

Went and had the tires rotated and balanced then stopped by the alignment shop. Alignment was completed and later in the day I noticed that I had frame rub at full lock to the left. No rub on full lock to the right.

Stock height, 2nd Gen rims and stock tire size (265/70/16). Tires are Bridgestone Revo II Dueler ATs (not that I expect it to matter).

Bottom line, never had rubbing before at full lock until after alignment. Attaching alignment report - does this look right or is it possible I'm having an issues with suspension components?

Relating to suspension, coils are original as everything else with the exception of LBJs (replaced per recall) and the Bilstein 4600s I put on 12 months ago. 156k on the truck.

What am I missing?

Thanks in advance...

 

As far as the reason you're getting some rubbing, it probably has to do with the 2nd gen wheels, which are 5.25" backspace IIRC, compared to the 4.5" BS on your stock wheels.
The reason you started rubbing after the alignment is because you had positive toe on the left side, which means the tire was pointed more towards the centerline of the truck. When they moved it back out to neutral toe, that pushed the back of your tire towards the frame, apparently just enough that it would rub at full left lock.
Your best bet is to reduce the backspacing of your wheels, whether by getting different wheels or using wheel spacers.

 

2nd gen wheels have a lot of backspacing. Way more than stock 1st gen wheels. About 15 mm more off set too. Puts the wheel closer to the frame. And closer the the UCA ball joint area too.

edit: Looks like Dan beat me too it.

 

Interesting. This must be why some report rubbing while some do not (like me). I remember looking into this before switching over. I also seem to recall a few posts talking about spacers being a bad thing (?) I really like these wheels vs. the stock 1st gen. Hate to switch back. Am I looking at any issues if I just don't 'full lock'? I don't believe I am close to any issues with the UCAs but will check in the am.

This might account for the uneven inside shoulder wear I was starting to see on my driver side front?

Thanks again for the quick responses. Definitely makes sense.

 

Rubbing on the frame is more annoying than anything. A little should not hurt anything.

 

Not really did it to my truck but did it to my garage WITH my truck.

 

There is nothing wrong with wheel spacers if they are good quality and are installed correctly. I have run SpiderTrax 1.25" spacers and Bora 1" spacers, they both work great. I doubt you would need more than 1" to clear your frame.
Your toe angle may have contributed to some uneven tire wear, generally an inside-outside wear imbalance is due to camber though.

 

Thx for the info.

 

Replaced the bearing in my Power Steering Idler pulley. Toyota wants more than $100 for the whole assembly. I got the bearing here:

$15 6301-2NSE Nachi Bearing 12x37x12 Sealed C3 Japan Ball Bearings

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0045DTOLY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The bearing is a 6301. It is the same as the AC idler pulley bearing.
It doesn't use a retaining ring, but instead has a "staked washer" I was able to beat the stakes in and hammered the bearing out from the back.

 

Finally got the rear gate built powder coated and installed on the cage, locks tight! Keeping honest people honest Struts,third break light, bed lights led pods are next on the list.

 

It's low enough you shouldn't have to relocate the third light, looks nice!

 

Thanks man! Yeh it's low enough but when the tent or sky box is on the rack it's not visible. I can unplug when not in use if necessary, on off switch maybe.

 

Question for the guys. I crawled under my new baby today and noticed that it's has tokico shocks under it. From what I read on here, the TRD comes with bilsteins so my question is, does anyone know anything about these? Or am I going crazy and those are the original shocks? Sorry, sure it's a noob question

 

Double cabs came with Tokicos.

 

Thank you. Looking at doing a 3" lift but I was making sure I wasn't going to get rid of something good. Reviews say they suck so 5100s and eibachs it is!

 

Found the mount holding this on busted off and it lead to weird noises like this. Can someone show me how the mount is supposed to look? All I see is the rubber isolater.

http://youtu.be/Th5NkBPgako

 

Got the new grille put together

 

Very nice! Still have that on my wish list.

 

Alwa

always open to suggestions!

 

Learned a valuable lesson last night on working on older 1st gens.... Spray some penetrating oil on everything a day before wrenching.

Went to replace pads and rotors and ended up damaging the caliper getting the damn pins out... Looks like I will have all new pads, rotors, and calipers on it now..