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Anyone Know Where To Find A Modern Hilux Manual?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by JeffreyB, Jul 15, 2017.

  1. Jul 15, 2017 at 10:11 PM
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    I frequently see the claim that modern engines call for 0-20 oil for fuel mileage and emissions reasons, which I don't doubt. Following that claim I frequently see someone suggest using 5-30 instead. My concern is that modern engines may be designed to use 0-20 and 5-30 would be too thick to adequately lubricate the engine.

    To solve this issue for the 2.7 once and for all, I was wondering if anyone knows where I can find a modern Hilux manual. Since the same 2TR-FE is offered in both the Hilux and Tacoma, if a different oil weight is recommended it would prove these theories true and prove that a thicker oil is adequate, and likely preferable, at least in the 2TR-FE. Any help is much appreciated.
     
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    The engine has been the same since 2004. They used to recommend 5-30. So can you run it? Sure, but why not just run what Toyota recommends currently?
     
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    I really don't understand why anyone would run 5w-30 instead of 0w-20 when the manual says to run 0w-20 and that's what Toyota puts in the truck.
     
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    The only difference would be that I believe they recently added dual vvti, which could make a difference. The argument frequently brought up is that the thinner oil is better for fuel economy, not engine protection. In the grand scheme of things 0-20 and 5-30 are not all that different. A lower winter weight is almost always better, and the at temp viscosity isn't that much different. So even if I find evidence that the fuel economy conspiracies are true, I won't switch. This is mostly out of curiosity since I see the claim so often.

    I agree, I am just trying to get to the bottom of these statements I see so often.

    Thank you, sir.
     
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    The thinner the oil the less resistance so less energy needed to move the internal components. Although I'm sure it's very minimal I'm sure that over the course of millions/ billions of rotations it equates to a considerable number.
     
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    One thing of note that I found while doing this search is that foreign manuals usually say a range of oils is fine on a variety of engines, rather than a specific weight. According to Mobil 1 AU, the 2015-2017 2TR-FE calls for 0-20 OR 5-30. Like I said, I will stick with 0-20, but it is interesting to me.

    Website
    http://www.mobil1.com.au/products/alr.aspx?utm_source=Mobil1-AU&utm_medium=Questions-ALR&utm_campaign=Guided Approach

    Tacoma 2TR-FE.jpg

    Out of curiosity, I looked up the Rav4 with the 2AR-FE engine on the same site. It calls for 0-20 in America. Mobil 1 recommended ONLY 5-30 on the Australian website. That does make me a bit curious, as there is a considerable start up rattle on that engine, if that would be mitigated with 5-30.

    Rav4.jpg

    Something to it? Maybe, I don't know. Maybe they figure Americans are too stupid to reasonably choose an oil based on their conditions. Interesting none the less though.
     
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    Dude you need to look for viscosity index for each oil. What you will find is the viscosity index for say 20 degrees ambient and 90 degrees ambient ( winter and summer) for a synthetic is pretty much flat.
     
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    yep..
    Ebay.co.uk or .co.za or some other countries
     
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    Just put either one in. It's better than NO oil!
     

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