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Bed power outlet

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by batong_23, Jul 25, 2017.

  1. Jul 25, 2017 at 12:57 PM
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    Hi guys, i just wanna know if the power outlet at the bed can work even without the truck turned on? or does the truck have to be turned on for them to work?

    what have you guys used the outlet for so far?
     
  2. Jul 25, 2017 at 1:03 PM
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    In your Sport, you have to just press the power button twice without pressing on the brake (one for ACC and one for ON) to be able to use it.
     
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    You can use it with the engine off, but it will quickly drain your battery.
     
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    After 15 minutes, the truck will turn off completely.
     
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    Thanks. Won't that drain the battery though?
     
  6. Jul 25, 2017 at 1:20 PM
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    Thanks. So you mean you only have 15min. To use the outlet before the truck senses that the battery is running low?
     
  7. Jul 25, 2017 at 1:25 PM
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    No, its on a timer to prevent you from forgetting that you left the truck on. So if you are waiting for someone in a parkinglot, and you are listening to the radio it turns off after 15 minutes. I've been able to run my radio for at least 30 minutes and I was still able to turn on my truck.

    If you plan to use your truck's outlet for extended periods of time, I would buy a compact jump starter and keep it in the back.

    https://www.amazon.com/FlyHi-13600m...8&qid=1501014276&sr=1-4&keywords=jump+starter
     
  8. Jul 25, 2017 at 1:29 PM
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    For clarification, the engine is off and the vehicle is on ACC/ON position. Mine is push-to-start. I truly don't know how it works on the keyed Toyotas.
     
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    By "on" do you mean engine running or just all the power on? It doesn't seem to work with everything off (like dome lights do, for example) but with the truck power on and engine off all the electronic stuff is on so many things other than just AC are draining the battery. To be honest, I'm not sure I get the benefit of the AC socket. You can run the engine and then the truck is basically a large generator so might be times when that's better than nothing. Would be cool if there was some sort of generator mode with the engine running at very low power like, well, a generator.
     
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    When I say "ON" is like in when you have the key in the "ON" position but not having the engine running.

    I have noticed that if you turn off the AC, the engine does go into full Atkinson cycle mode and starts cleaning out the valves. When it is just idling I know it uses very little gas because it takes an eternity to warm up this vehicle's engine in "cold" weather. (30-40 F, I live in Southern Cal.)
     
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    That's what I would assume as well but was just checking what the OP meant.

    Out of curiosity, how do you know the engine isn't in Atkinson cycle mode? I still don't get what exactly this does anyway.
     
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    Oh ok. So it doesn't work like how the dome lights work then.. you still have to turn the power,not the engine, on.. reason to all this is that I'm going to a drive in movie theater and they said it requires a radio. So I'm planning to plug the radio on to it while we watch from the bed of the truck. Wonder if it would last a good 2 hours
     
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    Kind of doubt that would work well. Leaving the power on that long might drain the battery a lot and it turns off after a bit anyway so you would be turning it back on again several times. A battery powered radio would be better.
     
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    It's the coolest feature when your neighbor takes out the power pole that used to able to share no big deal I run. The lights and charge the boat battery

    Enjoy it is sure do
     
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD2AQuhbHdk

    That's a pretty good summary of what Atkinson is.
     
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    another one of these no manual readin threads eh
     
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    It will last some amount. I completely understand your tailgating drive-in issue.

    I take my 4 Runner to the drive in, fold the seats down, and leave the keys in the ACC. I also have a small sub in there so I literally bring the Home Theater with me.
     
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    Thanks. Not sure I get why that's a good thing. Leave the valve open a bit during compression so some air and likely fuel leaks out. Seems you could just bring in less air to begin with if that's the goal. Must be some reason it's better though but since a tacoma isn't a hybrid I'm going back "why" again.
     
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    One acronym.. EPA.

    If you want less air in the first place, you would have the intake valve close before the piston reaches the bottom. By doing so you would "stretch" the air and create a vacuum which would slow down the crank. So what they do is let the piston continue the revolution, delay the closing of the valve to let air-fuel back to the intake (which is then sucked in by the next piston). Unless you implement a complicated piston-crank combination, or a fully controlled(electronic) valve system, you won't be able to achieve an Atkinson cycle engine effect which has been proven to be more efficient by design.

    So why implement such a complicated system on the Taco since its not a Hybrid?
    Emissions, Efficiency, Demand.
    • Its a cleaner combustion engine solution required by the EPA.
    • It results in more fuel efficient engine at idle and low power demanding loads (cruising at 40-60 MPH before wind resistance becomes exponentially an issue).
    • People want better MPG. I bought a Taco and not a Tundra because the Tundra gives you like 13 MPG.

    I hope this answers your WHY question.
     
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    Thanks. Didn't mean to hijack but was curious that the atkinson cycle could turn on and off and how you would know. I was thinking you could achieve less air by just using a smaller valve but then you would never have the option of more air. Again, didn't know the atkinson turned on and off.
     
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