URD Throwout Bearing Upgrade installation

oh really?

THE SOLUTION:

The Transmission Sleeve Kit (TSK) solves this problem by utilizing a sleeve, precission machined out of 303 Stainless steel, which slips over the original quill. This provides a smooth, hard surface for the oversize bearing to slide on. It is anchored with set screws and is removable & re-usable. As in the case of the Subaru, it must be removed in order to allow any transmission repairs.


THE RESULTS:

After installing the Tranmission Sleeve Kit (TSK) you have eliminated the problem forever! You will notice a smooth, fluid like, feel to the pedal. Your engagements will be smoother. Your clutch will last longer. This in turn, will reduce the wear on your transmission. It will never groove again!

Maybe they should update their website then...


Gadget did state earlier in the thread that it doesn't always work. only for 80 or 90% of them. But nothing about it not being a permanent fix.

 

In all of that copy/pasting, where does it say it will never squeak again? If you actually clicked the link in post 31 of this thread and READ it, you would have seen this "URD has what we call the bearing/sleeve repair kit. I will tell you right up front IT IS NOT A PERFECT FIX. Somehow people have gotten the impression we claim it to be and URD has NEVER MADE SUCH A CLAIM. We feel it is about 85% effective in resolving the squeaky bearing complaints." This is also on their website when you click on "Throw-out Bearings."

 

Look man I don't know what your end game of trolling this thread is but.... I have read that post and many others about the subject and since you bring that specific one up maybe you should reread it and include the context because if you do you will realize that 85% of people have no issues after the usual 15k longevity of the kit. That being said, thats exactly the post that I quoted in my last reply to you if you would actually read something instead of jumping to conclusions. Second, your defense in whatever this is was to say that they aren't a permanent fix not that it is not a "perfect fix" as what you quoted states. Again, this has been made very clear and as I said already, that is exactly what I said in my last reply to you. As for quoting the website, what I did in all that "copy/pasting" as you put it was show you that it does state verbatim that "you have eliminated the problem forever". Again yes I'm aware that this isn't always the case. Thanks for your input but seriously go waste some other thread's space unless you have something constructive to say.

 

The problem that is fixed forever with the sleeve is the grooving not the squeaking..I think you're assuming things. I'm not hear to troll, but I hate the squeaking on my truck as well and been looking at both options. After doing the research, the conversion kit seems to be the way to go for long term "permanent fix." If you don't do the conversion, the TOB will just keep wearing out prematurely due to the design. Am I a Toyota transmission expert? No, but I did actually read and try to understand the information posted by URD. You might want to try doing the same.

 

Look man. That write up is about all of the issues. If they mean it to be for one sole issue then they failed in portraying that due to the room left for interpretation. As for whether the sleeve is a permanent fix or not, it works perfectly fine for 85% of trucks, with others it just comes back normally after 15k miles. My gripe was that it the symptoms came back only after 2 months vs about a year (average milage for one year of driving is about 15k miles). Again I have read ALL of the information on URD and on here. Im well aware of what you're referring to so do us both a favor. Buy the Hydro conversion, and give a review on here bc there isn't many.

 

I think maybe where people are getting confused is they are not paying attention to what the sleeve kit is fixing.

The stock quill is aluminum and it can get all chewed up and galled from the bearing being side loaded and rubbing back and forth. This can cause the bearing to not move back and forth smoothly and take more effort to work the clutch. The sleeve repairs the damage to the quill. It repairs the damage to the uneven wear on the quill. This gives the bearing a nice smooth surface to ride or slide back and forth on. That is what the sleeve is fixing. Then the bearing his honed out to fit over the new smooth quill and grease holding grooves are cut inside of the bearing to it stays lubed better. This gives a nice smooth action to the mechanism.

Now lets talk about this squeak since it has not been mentioned yet.....

The squeak that everyone complains about is caused by intermittent contact between the face of the bearing and the release fingers of the clutch pressure plate. If the quill is all jacked up and the inside of the bearing is all jacked up and worn out it can sit sloppy and crucked when there is no pressure on it. When this happens one edge can stick out more than another and it can make intermittent contact causing a squeak. If the squeak is being caused by a sloppy bearing, then the sleeve repair can make that bearing stay nice and tight and straight and reducing the chance of intermittent contact. So in some cases it can resolve the squeak but it is designed to fix the worn out quill. If it also resolves the squeak, awesome. Sometimes it will sometimes it won't. We make no claim that it fixes that problem. That problem is a design flaw. The kit is fixing the worn out quill.

If you want to fix the design flaw we have another kit for that.

Now if the nice straight bearing does resolve the intermittent contact problem that can cause the squeak, it may come back later as the clutch disc wears out and gets thinner. When that happens the plate moves forward to take up the space and the release fingers move back toward the bearing. At some point in the clutch's life those fingers may move back far enough to start having intermittent contact again with the face of the bearing even when it is nice and straight and everything is perfect.

So, the sleeve kit repairs the wear in the quill. It may also have a positive affect on the squeak caused by intermittent contact with the release fingers. Its purpose is to repair the quill. When our product description talks about fixing the problem that is what it is talking about. It does not make ANY MENTION OF A SQUEAK or FIXING A SQUEAK. I just don't understand how people can read that with no mention of any squeaking and say we are claiming to fix a squeak and then calling us raising hell saying we are making false claims.

Now have I cleared anything up or have I just made things worse???

 

What kit fixes the design flaw? And in that situation would you say it should stop the chirp I am hearing?

 

Two different kits.

The sleeve repair kit fixes the worn out quill.

The FIX-U Hydro Bearing Repair kit will fix a quill that has snapped off the bell housing completely, and solves what we believe to be an overall design flaw in the clutch release mechanism that causes the squeaking bearing problem.

 

Okay I really, really, really want to get rid of this squeak. What parts do I need to replace and how much will they cost. Doesn't have to be a urd kit. Just in general what would I need. New throw out bearing, etc

 

Hey guys. Made an account so I can chat here a bit.

I have a 2005 X-Runner.

I am in the process of rebuilding my transmission. Since I have everything out, I am replacing a lot of things preemptively so I hopefully don't have to go through this again. All syncros, hub sleeves, broken shift fork, bearing, seals, clutch disk+pressure plate+throwout bearing.

Was considering getting the URD Throwout Bearing Upgrade kit (Not the Fix-U Hydro kit)
I never had any issues with squeaking, but thought maybe this kit would be good to get ahead of the problem before it starts.
Clutch kit comes with a TOB...
Honestly, would I be wasting money buying this TOB kit? My quill isn't damaged and I've read that that issue is can still come up.
Any thoughts on just sticking with the new bearing in my clutch kit? Kind of on a budget here.

 

Bump. Any other review (than Gadget's)?

 

I just had the stage 2 urd clutch installed and the updated bearing with the sleeve. after I have a TON of chatter when in gear and on the gas. I've called urd and talked to the mechanic who did the install and other than taking it back out and sending it to urd to be tested they havent really came up with a solution. could this be the issue with the fork and ball thats causing this chatter? I can make it quiet down or completely go away by slightly putting pressure on the clutch pedal..

 

fuck that god awful squeak

 

Not sure why I did not see this before.... I actually decided to get the heavy flywheel and now I have hotspots. apparently I am not the first. To be continued.....

 

Mine Torque-U is waiting for time to install along with URD’s quill sleeve/bearing and Centerforce Dual Friction clutch.

 

Pulled my URD stage 2 clutch back out after 1500 miles or so and had major hot spots on my flywheel. I just had my OEM resurfaced though. Long story short I put an OEM clutch back in the truck along with the bearing and sleeve kit from URD and all problems solved. I sent the clutch back to URD and have been awaiting a decision if my clutch is "messed up" or not...

 

Did you ever install this in your FJ? Im trying to figure out if the upgraded URD TOB/Sleeve requires that you drill into the quill to be able to secure the sleeve with the set screws.. Anyone have any info on this?

 

I do not believe it requires drilling but not 100% sure.

 

No drilling. Use Loctite on the threads of the set screws.

 

Thanks for the info yall! So do the set screws just tighten down against the quill and prevent it from sliding off? Im guessing its similar to this?